907
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 06:29 PM |
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Local Garage Must Stamp VIN ?
Hi all,
In the letter informing me of my VIN it says that a franchised dealer or local garage must stamp the number on my chassis.
( one dent and he's a dead man  )
As I'm the chassis manufacturer is this the case?
Or
Can I stamp the number on a plate, cut it into the chassis & weld, polish the weld off, then get the local garage to witness?
To be honest I don't see the point of either. The IVA inspector will see it and it will match the application forms and at least
he will know what he's looking at.
But if we must jump through hoops….. then we must.
Cheers
Paul G
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theprisioner
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 06:48 PM |
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Are you not your own franchised dealer as you built it yourself?
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CosKev3
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 06:52 PM |
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Even if the garage does do it you will need to stamp it onto a flat plate first and weld it to chassis, as stamping the box section will dent it for
sure.
Just remember spot welded on plates are not accepted.
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907
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 07:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theprisioner
Are you not your own franchised dealer as you built it yourself?
I would interpret "franchised dealer" as, for instance, the local XXXX dealership.
These IMHO are the last people you can trust. The local garage has to give good service or you go elsewhere,
while a dealership has you by the s & c's.
Paul G
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pekwah1
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 07:46 PM |
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I etched mine myself using an electric etching tool, went through IVA and registration with no problems.
It's not particularly the neatest job either!
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907
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 07:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Even if the garage does do it you will need to stamp it onto a flat plate first and weld it to chassis, as stamping the box section will dent it for
sure.
Just remember spot welded on plates are not accepted.
I was thinking of drilling two 20mm holes and joining them up with a cutting disc to make a sort of oblong hole, with round ends.
Cutting the stamped plate to match and welding in flush. Clean off the weld build up and it will look like the original box.
Cheers,
Paul G
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907
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 07:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pekwah1
I etched mine myself using an electric etching tool, went through IVA and registration with no problems.
It's not particularly the neatest job either!
So no stamped statement on headed paper from the garage then ?
Cheers
Paul G
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ashg
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 08:00 PM |
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i stamped min onto a piece of 3mm steel and welded it to the chassis. mr vosa and dvla were both happy with it.
apparently vosa and dvla are all now the same agency so if mr vosa likes it then it should be fine.
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907
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 08:26 PM |
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Cheers Ash, and everyone else.
I'll ignore the letter then and just do it myself,
and if there's a query I'll just say you lot said so.  
Paul G
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CosKev3
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 08:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Even if the garage does do it you will need to stamp it onto a flat plate first and weld it to chassis, as stamping the box section will dent it for
sure.
Just remember spot welded on plates are not accepted.
I was thinking of drilling two 20mm holes and joining them up with a cutting disc to make a sort of oblong hole, with round ends.
Cutting the stamped plate to match and welding in flush. Clean off the weld build up and it will look like the original box.
Cheers,
Paul G
Yeah you could 
But bit ott just for a chassis plate, they look fine just welded onto the top of the box!
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The Black Flash
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 09:16 PM |
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Yeah, that's utter bollocks, I've never heard that before. Don't recall anything in the manual about it either, just make your own
or etch into the chassis rail with a dremel.
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 10:23 PM |
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From the letter I have it seems that a garage has to certify that the number you have been given has been stamped, etched or whatever into the chassis
- not that they have to do it!
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 10:41 PM |
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Its wording is - I/we confirm that the VIN .......has been stamped or permanently embossed on the chassis/ framework - and asks for signature and
dealer stamp. (That's any garage/dealer). Its to be returned to Kits and Rebuilds at DVLA (Donna Kennett)
I think its just Donna trying to keep her records straight, no big issue, I don't see why we can't sort it and for the price of a stamp
send it back to her - it also says in the earlier part of the letter "When you are ready to register the vehicle" so no big rush to get it
done either
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907
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 07:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ianhurley20
Its wording is - I/we confirm that the VIN .......has been stamped or permanently embossed on the chassis/ framework - and asks for signature and
dealer stamp. (That's any garage/dealer). Its to be returned to Kits and Rebuilds at DVLA (Donna Kennett)
I think its just Donna trying to keep her records straight, no big issue, I don't see why we can't sort it and for the price of a stamp
send it back to her - it also says in the earlier part of the letter "When you are ready to register the vehicle" so no big rush to get it
done either
Agree 100%. (My letter was not from DK, but from DD.)
That says the garage confirms the VIN has been stamped, not that they did it.
Scan from my letter
 
Description
I've stamped a plate and will cut it to size and weld it in the chassis.
 
plate to be welded on chassis
I will get this inspected (local garage) before IVA.
After IVA this cert is returned together with:-
1st reg &tax V55/5
Build up report V627/1
Licence fee
IVA cert
Any receipts &photo's
Hope I've got that right. (fingers crossed)
Paul G
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Stot
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 09:16 AM |
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I engraved mine myself and welded it flush as you suggested by cutting out a piece and welding in a piece followed by grinding. IVA was no prob and
on the way back from the IVA pass I stopped at a local independant garage and gave them 10 beer tokens to sign and stamp the DVLA letter.
Cheers
Stot
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907
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 09:26 AM |
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Cheers Stot,
and also thanks for your posts on the Haynes forum. Very useful.
I did try to register on there but didn't succeed. Must of had the wrong hat on.
atb
Paul G
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 10:09 AM |
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I have same letter, I read it to mean they want a local garage to confirm VIN has been applied to car.
So did it myself with engraving tool, will get them to whitness it, when I go to have car checked on brake rollers etc prior to IVA
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Chassis number
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Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
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Mal
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 10:47 AM |
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Don't forget that the number needs to be positioned on the right hand side of the chassis.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 12:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mal
Don't forget that the number needs to be positioned on the right hand side of the chassis.
Mine's on the left-hand side... no-one objected, either at the SVA (as was) or at the DVLA inspection.
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stevem427
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 07:22 PM |
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I stamped mine into the boot floor.
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The Black Flash
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| posted on 3/12/14 at 11:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by Mal
Don't forget that the number needs to be positioned on the right hand side of the chassis.
Mine's on the left-hand side... no-one objected, either at the SVA (as was) or at the DVLA inspection.
I think putting it on the right side came in with IVA - definately a requirement now.
As for this getting it signed malarky - sounds like she's making it up as she goes along. As Ash says, if it's been inspected by VOSA or
whatever now, how can it possibly need a 3rd party to check it again? Bonkers.
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907
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| posted on 9/12/14 at 07:27 AM |
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I don't think it's Donna or Danielle.
Government departments have their way of working and that's cast in stone.
Anyway, chassis is now stamped so that's one more job done.
Cheers
Paul G
 
VIN number onto chassis
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