scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 03:59 PM |
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mpg
Ok, I know this isn't one of the things at the top of your list when building a car like this, but does 14.8mpg off a standard pinto sound low
to anyone else? 
I think something isn't set up properly, so next on the 'to-do' list is to set the valve clearances, timing and have a twiddle with
the carb (maybe even get it done professionally).
What sort of mpg does everyone else get?
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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carnut
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:01 PM |
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17 mpg or maybe 18 if I take it easy.
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by carnut
17 mpg or maybe 18 if I take it easy.
It's not just me then! Not cheap when Optimax costs 93.9p/litre... Oh well, it's good fun driving it 
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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stevebubs
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
Ok, I know this isn't one of the things at the top of your list when building a car like this, but does 14.8mpg off a standard pinto sound low
to anyone else?
I think something isn't set up properly, so next on the 'to-do' list is to set the valve clearances, timing and have a twiddle with
the carb (maybe even get it done professionally).
What sort of mpg does everyone else get?
Pete
If you're running twin DCOEs then it wouldn't surprise me..
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:07 PM |
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Running the standard carb that came with the engine, can't afford twin webers (yet!)
Pete
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Mix
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:17 PM |
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Gut reaction and physics says you ought to be getting better mpg than the donor.
Mick
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mix
Gut reaction and physics says you ought to be getting better mpg than the donor.
Mick
That's what I thought but I'm not sure what the donor was getting. I used to drive a 1.8 sierra for about 7 months and that was only
managing about 18mpg, are these engines notoriously thirsty or do I just have a habit of picking the bad ones?
Pete
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donut
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:24 PM |
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I was told that my old pinto Indy is getting 25-30mpg
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Dale
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 04:27 PM |
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I would think that the nature of the beast is to be driven much harder than you would the donor car hence the gas milage would be similar or worse -
even though the load on the engine is less from the weight.
Dale
Thanks
Dale
my 14 and11 year old boys 22
and 19 now want to drive but have to be 25 before insurance will allow. Finally on the road
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sonic
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 05:24 PM |
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Hi there
I would have it checked out if i were you
I am running a 16v Vauxhall with injection and i am getting 28mpg plus normal unleaded and i dont hang around!!!!
My mate has just got an Indy with a standerd 2L pinto with twin choke and he was just saying how economical it was!!
and he thinks the throttle is a switch on or off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So have it set up and i think it would be much better
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smart51
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 05:37 PM |
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Fuel economy is due to the engine / power train efficiency, the rolling resistance and the aerodynamics. The engine and powertrain is the same from
donor to locost. The weight is less on your 7 so, provided you havn't got really sticky tyres, rolling resistance should be less.
Aerodynamics should be about the same. The drag coefficient is worse but the fronal area is better.
All that leaves is carb set up and driving style. Lots of acceleration, lots of high speed or lots of idling will up your MPG. Fords have always
been notorious for bad fuel consumption.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 05:40 PM |
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On a long run I get over 40mpg, I get 35mpg normal local driving and this drops to 30mpg when I am blatting. I think the injection helps the economy,
and keeps the engine really smooth
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 06:16 PM |
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As a couple of you have mentioned, I'm pretty sure it's the carb - I tried to adjust the mixture by listening to the revs but it
wasn't as easy as I'd expected, so I suspect that's where the problem lies. Any tips for a better way to set it up myself or is it a
case of getting it to a garage and letting a professional look at it?
Cheers,
Pete
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britishtrident
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 06:36 PM |
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If you can't find anything obvious do a compression test -- very high fuel consumption is a symptom of knackered exhaust valves.
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 06:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
If you can't find anything obvious do a compression test -- very high fuel consumption is a symptom of knackered exhaust valves.
Hmm ok, I'll check it out. I plan on having a look at the valves and cam shaft anyway, the engine is tapping a bit so there's obviously
something not quite right under there. I've never actually had the top off it so let's hope I won't discover a disaster!
Pete
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Andrew+dad
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 06:51 PM |
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mpg that low must wee you off lol we get about 25 on average from a 4L jag xj8 lol and we regularly cruise at atleast 100 rergularly hit the limiter
at 150 aswell so dont hang around ...
will porably all change if dad gets his way and mum lets him chip it up lol
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 06:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew+dad
mpg that low must wee you off lol we get about 25 on average from a 4L jag xj8 lol and we regularly cruise at atleast 100 rergularly hit the limiter
at 150 aswell so dont hang around ...
will porably all change if dad gets his way and mum lets him chip it up lol
To be honest it's not the low mpg that annoys me - it's the fact that the engine obviously isn't running at its best and I'm
missing out on some potential extra power! 
Pete
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 07:34 PM |
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If it's ticking you can bet the cam's knackered. The lobes on mine were practically round on 3 and 4 when I got it with an 1/8"
groove and it had only done 70 odd thousand. I put in a standard cam kit and run it on the original carb and it does at least 25mpg.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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minky169
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 09:01 PM |
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mpg
hi, i agree with pete ,pintos are notorious for worn cams and therefor followers. i run a 2b with 2l pinto, had 134,000 on it and all i did was fit a
cam kit. get 28mpg normally and thrashed it around goodwood for 150 miles and still got 19mpg.
cheers nick.
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jacko
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 09:13 PM |
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mpg
48 mpg running on twin 45su's on a run 70mph + pinto 2.1
jacko
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 09:29 PM |
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Try the timing as well,
we retarded ours 2 deg to be safe on the track at Elvington so it wouldn't pink at all, if we were 2 busy concentrating on other things!
And now in normal use its doing much less to the gallon, so its getting put back ASAP!
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SixedUp
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 10:07 PM |
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I used to get around 30mpg with a standard 2.0 pinto on twin 40's. A bit less when thrashing, bit more when cruising. Even at its worst, I never
saw the wrong side of 20mpg.
Cheers
Richard
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/7/05 at 11:58 PM |
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Looks like a bit of a recon job might be in order then. I'm surprised because the engine was a recon itself, done 3 years ago by Ford and only
covered 20k miles since. Makes you wonder how much reconditioning they actually do internally, most people wouldn't know the difference if they
stick the old camshaft back in...
Can anyone give me a rough idea how much a new camshaft would cost? Where is the best place to get them? Ford/motorfactor/ebay?
Will also have a look at the valve clearances and timing - I want to learn more about engines anyway so it won't be wasted effort even if they
turn out to be ok.
Oh yeah, better check the carb too... this is growing into quite a list, maybe I should just get a new engine!
Cheers,
Pete
[Edited on 19/7/05 by scoobyis2cool]
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 19/7/05 at 12:00 AM |
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Prices went up last week as some pay £1.10/litre
Prices soar as oil hits $60/barrelPetrol prices have hit £1+ per litre -- at least they have if you live on Scotland's Western Isles. In
Stornoway, on the Isle of Lewis, petrol was £1.09 for unleaded, £1.10 for diesel, while in Benbecula, it was £1.028 for unleaded petrol and £1.038 for
diesel. On the mainland, prices went up to around 90p per litre on Friday.
While some on the islands see it as an unfair tax on the island, the oil companies' usual mantra is to cite the extra cost of shipping the stuff
to a remote location. That contrasts with the petrol station on the Orkney island of Rousay, where Chris and Marion Clark are subsidising petrol
prices with what they make in their petrol station shop because they cannot bring themselves to charge the 250 islanders the true cost. They should
have been charging over £1 for unleaded and diesel at their pumps for the past year but yesterday the price board showed just 98p a litre for petrol
and 99p for diesel.
According to a report ion the Glasgow Herald, Clark said: "Basically we dropped our margin from 12.5 per cent to 10 per cent on fuel. We try to
be fair and give the heavy users such as the contractors on the island a further discount, otherwise the cost just gets added to the cost of the
job."
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