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Is it legal? (more pics!)
The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:42 PM

Hi there,

As a continuation from the thread 'is it legal?' that I posted yesterday I have uploaded some more pictures of my car that has been booked in for the SVA test in 2 weeks time.

I am currently in the process of studying the SVA manual so I have a reasonable idea of what needs doing but if you can spot anything that I have missed, it would be really helpful if you could let me know.

After yesterday's discussion, I have decided to:

- remove the rear panel and speakers and replace it with a new panel that doesnt have any sharp edges and no speakers.

- take the cd player out and put in a blanking plate for the test

- replace all fuel pipes with the proper stuff

I have checked in the manual and the indicators arn't too low or too far in - they are less than 400mm in from the outside of the car. The side repeaters arnt too low either (both above 350mm from ground level). There was a concern over the mirror height, looked in the manual and couldn't see a required height for them - vision isnt restricted at that height.

If you can spot any possible issues please let me know.

Many thanks,

Matt Rescued attachment Front Side.JPG
Rescued attachment Front Side.JPG


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:44 PM

front Rescued attachment Front.JPG
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The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:45 PM

rear side Rescued attachment Rear Side.JPG
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The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:45 PM

dash and interior Rescued attachment dash and interior.JPG
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The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:46 PM

suspension 1 Rescued attachment suspension1.JPG
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phoenix70 - 19/3/09 at 03:46 PM

I Think it's been mentioned before, but your bonnet catches won't pass. Also, you may want to turn the exhaust clamps round a bit more, so the nuts are concealed. You need to ensure that you can see over you rear arches in the mirrors, why seated in the car.

Are you sure the front indicators are not too narrow (remember the rear of the car is probably wider than the front, and it is 400mm from the outside of the car at its widest)

[Edited on 19/3/09 by phoenix70]

[Edited on 19/3/09 by phoenix70]


MautoK - 19/3/09 at 03:48 PM

At a quick glance:
Exhaust clamp
Bonnet catches
Mirrors possibly too low?


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:48 PM

rear harness mounting, do these need plastic caps on? Rescued attachment Harness mounting.JPG
Rescued attachment Harness mounting.JPG


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:51 PM

gear stick plate screws, are these radiussed enough? Rescued attachment gear stick screws.JPG
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Davey D - 19/3/09 at 03:52 PM

Are those bonnet catches SVA proof? i thought you had to have the rubber ones?

regarding the car stereo - will you even be able to hear it when when driving along?


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:52 PM

suspension 2 Rescued attachment suspension2.JPG
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phoenix70 - 19/3/09 at 03:53 PM

Your Harness mounts are way too low, that won't pass, you need to ensure that the mounts are about the same height as the cut outs in the seats. Do you have runners on the seats, you may need to take them out from the SVA

You may want to cover the spring adjusting ring on the front suspension too.

[Edited on 19/3/09 by phoenix70]


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:53 PM

suspension 3 Rescued attachment suspension 3.JPG
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MautoK - 19/3/09 at 03:53 PM

....and the seat belt ends will need the edges covered.
The routing of the belts may be an issue, too. (The seat is preventing a straight run from shoulder to mounting)


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:55 PM

bonnet clips, they lock when closed but are they radiussed enough? Rescued attachment bonnet clips.JPG
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The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:57 PM

exhaust outlet - does it need edging trim and a new smoother clamp? Rescued attachment exhaust outlet.JPG
Rescued attachment exhaust outlet.JPG


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 03:58 PM

wiring 1 Rescued attachment wiring 1.JPG
Rescued attachment wiring 1.JPG


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 04:00 PM

grill 1 - will those screws be ok? Rescued attachment grill 1.JPG
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dan__wright - 19/3/09 at 04:00 PM

coilover adjuster, top balljoint, bonnet latch radius.
live terminal on batt not covered, exhaust clamp and possibly hole in bodywork radius too

edit: also a few uncovered nuts / bolts on suspension

[Edited on 19/3/09 by dan__wright]


The Simmonds - 19/3/09 at 04:01 PM

Ah I think thats enough pics for a while! I have more but I think that covers most of the issues.

Id really appreciate your feedback.

Cheers,

Matt


speedyxjs - 19/3/09 at 04:03 PM

As said, seat belt mounts are Waaay too low. They need to be at least the height of the holes in your seats to prevent them pulling the seat down in the unfortunate event of an accident.


irvined - 19/3/09 at 04:04 PM

Where does the SVA examinar check the seat belt height? If its the cut outs in the seat, then its fine, if its the brackets on the rear bulkhead, you might have an issue with it being too low.


MautoK - 19/3/09 at 04:06 PM

The catches look as if the present failable edges.
And, seeing the last few pics, there's a lot of bits in the front suspension will need covering/radiusing - such as the adjusting nuts on the spring/dampers and the brake pipe bracket.
Battery - 'live' must be covered. And I would suggest a more secure method of holding it down than a couple of M6 screws.
If (perish the thought) the car stops at 20-30 G that battery will carry on going....
Wiring is likely to at least attract comments if not better secured/wrapped.


oldtimer - 19/3/09 at 04:18 PM

Manual doesn't give mirror heights but does give a plan of lines that must be visible to the driver.


wicket - 19/3/09 at 04:22 PM

Here's the relevant dimensions for the seat belt top fixings Rescued attachment seatbeltfix2.jpg
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wilkingj - 19/3/09 at 04:24 PM

Front Indicators more than 400mm from the WIDEST part of the car (usually measured at rear wings)

Raduis on:
Speakers (rear shelf) and aerial mount.
Bottom of headlamp brackets
Nut covers on Front uprights
Silver trim over the door area right at the back where it finishes.
Suspension adjusting rings need Cover (I used Bike inner tube!) or even Model Car Wheels fit nicely
Nuts on suspension units not covered (top and bottom)

Cover the nut on the top ball joint on the wishbone (the tranny drag link one)

Live terminal on Battery exposed (cheap cover from discount store at less than £2)

Seat belts through the holes in the seat. - remove seatbelts from holes.
ie if the seat (holes) collapse in an accident the belts would become slack and not hold you in the seat.

Wing mirrors too low (I only suspect this). All the SVA marks for testing are in my Archive under "mirrors" Lay a broom pole on the ground, sit in car and see if you can see the marks / pole etc. I failed on this.

Check the angle of visibility on the side indicator repeater, may need to be higher, but check first. (not sure on this one without the SVA manual to hand)

Steering wheel slots and centre nut need covering

Bottom of Dashboard radius and padding?

Sorry for sounding a bit negative. None of it is serious, just all minor points.

Even fixing it, I bet the examiner will find something else... they usually do.
Still they are great guys, and really want you to pass. They might bend the rules, but they will not break them for you.

After all You want to be driving a safe car dont you?


clairetoo - 19/3/09 at 04:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by The Simmonds
wiring 1

That wiring could do with some spiral wrap and a few more P clips - and if that old , yellowed reinforced hose is your fuel pipe it will need changing for correctly marked rubber fuel hose .


BenB - 19/3/09 at 04:38 PM

Is there enough thread protruding out of the nylock on the top swivel??? Big fail point if not (for obvious reasons).


jacko - 19/3/09 at 05:05 PM

I think the seat belt mounting is 2 low the belt should go though the seat without touching it when you have them on

I can't see any rear reflectors ?

[Edited on 19/3/09 by jacko]


russbost - 19/3/09 at 05:16 PM

It will fail on the screw sticking out next to the seat belt mounts which yes do need caps, the bracket/bolt edge on the headlamp mount may need covering, if you get a fussy tester (like I did first time) you'll need to cover the centre of the steering wheel or radius the edges of the spokes (yes, really).
Indicators definitely look too far in.


Dickyboy - 19/3/09 at 05:22 PM

Is the silencer output pipe rolled end?


jacko - 19/3/09 at 05:37 PM

In the 5 photo if you look at the bottom wish bone about half way along it looks like a weld is it ? or a run in the paint ?
I hope its paint


Avoneer - 19/3/09 at 07:03 PM

This would concern me:


jacko - 19/3/09 at 07:16 PM

Well spotted that dose not look good


JoelP - 19/3/09 at 08:17 PM

doesnt the fog light need to be to the offside of the rear of the vehicle?


Dangle_kt - 20/3/09 at 08:26 PM

Im not sure if it is the angle of the photo, but this doesn;t look very weel welded. I cant quite figure out what is going on with the steel under the mount, not to mention the amount of weld on the mount itself.

Did you weld the chassis yourself? Are you confident in it? Not trying to be a killjoy, but the if the inspector spots something he doesn;t like the look of, he will cast a very close eye over all of the rest of the welds, which might not be very good.

Hopefully its just the angle of the pic and its all good.

At the end of the day its your bum in the seat if it all goes wrong at 50mph + so it really is best to be sure its right. Rescued attachment sva.jpg
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