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New Road Tax Regs
pbs - 30/4/08 at 11:38 AM

Having a nearly completed Locost with Rover V8 fitted how are the new roadtax changes going to effect me?

Please see the link below on what is being proposed.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/232518/


westf27 - 30/4/08 at 11:39 AM

Badly but then your fuel bill is hardly small


Mr Whippy - 30/4/08 at 11:51 AM

yeah I was just thing that was the least of your worries

fancy converting to LPG?


Paul (Notts) - 30/4/08 at 11:52 AM

AS far as I understand it..

The rates shown only apply to cars that have been type approved in category M1 and registered on the basis of CO2 emissions measured in grams per kilometre (g/km) driven. These details are shown on the Registration Certificate.

My V8 registered in Feb 2008 does not fall into this catogary as it is not given a CO2 rating so I pay the "Over 1549cc" rate which I think is about £210 per year.

If it had a CO2 rating it would fall into the £400+ band

Paul

The only way to keep the fuel bill down is to walk.


Mr Whippy - 30/4/08 at 12:16 PM

£400+ !!!! that and the price of fuel!

wait till you see the shear number of 4x4's that come up for sale

could this be the end of the Landys? My neighour has now sold his defender after swearing he'd never sell it and my sister is getting rid of the shogun which is a pitty cos it was good for towing


pbs - 30/4/08 at 12:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
yeah I was just thing that was the least of your worries

fancy converting to LPG?


For all that I have driven the car the fuel bills are steep and I only have a small tank anyway, can you get a diy LPG kit as I have thought about a conversion but wont want to pay 1k+ for someone else to do the conversion on a car that wont do that many miles.


pbs - 30/4/08 at 12:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Paul (Notts)
AS far as I understand it..

The rates shown only apply to cars that have been type approved in category M1 and registered on the basis of CO2 emissions measured in grams per kilometre (g/km) driven. These details are shown on the Registration Certificate.

My V8 registered in Feb 2008 does not fall into this catogary as it is not given a CO2 rating so I pay the "Over 1549cc" rate which I think is about £210 per year.

If it had a CO2 rating it would fall into the £400+ band

Paul

The only way to keep the fuel bill down is to walk.


Well I did think that it would be difficult for them to get a Co2 rating on a one off car so the old tax bands will probably stay for kit cars and home builds if this is the case but what about others cars.

I have 1998 306 Gti6 (2 liter) which has no Co2 banding on the Reg docs but after checking on the web I have found that the out put is 224 g/km will this now mean a new set of reg docs before I can apply for Tax next year as I presume that all cars registered before 2001 will be in the same situation, this could turn into a bit of a nightmare considering how efficient the Dvla are.


bjw970s - 30/4/08 at 01:07 PM

My wife has just sold her Cooper S. Under the new regs it would have cost her £400 per year for road tax with approx 35MPG

Her new MINI clubman is £35 per year instead and gives 78 MPG.

It wasn't the reason for changing but on reflection it was a damn good side benefit!!!

This does not apply to pre-2001 yet!!! (but apparrently will by a certain date - don't know when)

[Edited on 30/4/08 by bjw970s]


JohnN - 30/4/08 at 01:36 PM

As reported by Paul (notts), there is no basis for Carbon emission pre 2001, so I too cannot see how this would be applied pre 2001.

Here's a question..... what if I have a 2002 car with a stated Carbon emission and I changed the engine to something else (could be bigger, smaller, greater or less carbon) what would be the mechanism, if any, for a change to its road tax??????

ie I have a 2004 diesel clio @ £35 per year and I slipped in a rebuilt 2 litre petrol engine. I guess I would notify the DVLA, probably have the install certified by a qualified engineer and then would be issued with a new v5. What would thge road tax then be? surely, at worst it would be as for a pre 2001 car with no carbon figure??


02GF74 - 30/4/08 at 03:31 PM

and this too


Snuggs - 30/4/08 at 04:32 PM

If you are going for an age related plate or a Q then the tax will be £185.

Not sure how they would assess a brand new build.

[Edited on 30/4/08 by Snuggs]


Paul (Notts) - 30/4/08 at 04:45 PM

The following table shows the new 13 band tax scale fro 2009, new cars 2009 and then for 210.


c02 -----------2009 new 2010

A 0-100-----------0 0 0
B 101-110--------20 0 20
C 111-120--------30 0 35
D 121-130--------90 0 95
E 131-140--------110 115 115
F 141-150--------120 125 125
G 151-160--------150 155 155
H 161-170--------175 250 180
I 171-180---------205 300 210
J 181-200---------260 425 270
K 201-225--------300 550 310
L 226-255--------415 750 430
M 255+------------440 950 455

Paul

The real price changes start at181 co2 and above


[Edited on 30/4/08 by Paul (Notts)]

[Edited on 30/4/08 by Paul (Notts)]

[Edited on 30/4/08 by Paul (Notts)]


andybod - 30/4/08 at 05:37 PM

this is one of the main reasons why i've just sold my 02 plate impreza ,worth having a look at www.parkers.co.uk then clicking on the whats it worth link then road tax enter your reg details and it'll tell you whats happening atb andy