Found an interesting looking bodyshell on the 750mc stand at Stoneleigh today. Had stickers on it saying "Cyana Motor Sports" I believe this is basically what was the Phoenix. Does anyone have their current contact info as everything I can find is out of date or a dead link?
Raw have the Phoenix rights now, not sure if they are exclusive. I beleive (from googling) that Cyana were doing MX5 based versions of the phoenix
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the cyan is the original pheonix body that had thefury style rear end. The current pheonix (currently owned by raw) is the later more conventional/known body with the pointy rear end. There is a guy in RGB (Steve bell) who has just kitted out a stiker with the cyan body and it looks very good!
Pictures anyone?
Ill post pass details on to you tom. I have Robs details in the office.
Cheers matt
Why didn't you ask at the stand?
Stevie Bell
Oh yes, I like the look of that, looks superb in the matt black
I was asked to rework a Haynes chassis to fit under this body work and try and make it a little more accommodating in the cock pit but it never come to any thing. It's a shame as I would have brought one.
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Why didn't you ask at the stand?
Exactly Scootz as seems to be the norm on these stands
It had stickers on it that suggested the front and rear clamshells were £450 each which seems reasonable compared to some of the bodywork sets for the
seven style. I too will be looking to use it on my Haynes based chassis now it's almost completed. Talon, any rough ideas what sort of mods you
thought maybe needed? I thought it looked like a fairly straightforward matter of welding on a few mounts but knowing my luck it would need a lot more
than that!
Cheers matt that would be great.
No sorry I don't know what it would take to make it fit, I never got a tape measure to it. The idea was to have a complete body in the shop and see what was what but the emails stopped and that was it.
I spoke to someone on the stand and was told that the wheel base is 6 inches shorter than a locost, to make it fit it seems that the front end of the
car needs shortening to suit or the wishbones may be able to be modified.
Paul
There were some fliers.
£450 for bonnet £450 for rear tub, £125 for each sidepod.
Finish didn't look that great, but maybe this was an exception.
Cyana were building an MX5 based Phoenix, not many around though.
That bodyshell also piqued my interest, especially as Cyana are based in Newcastle under Lyme so it's only up the road for me. I did manage to
speak to the guy, he did give me a very detailed history of how it started at one point, Sylva and Raw took their share and left this particular
little combination.
He also told me about it being six inches shorter for the locost chassis, but I thought he said it was fine for the roadster? Or maybe he was
referring to their own chassis that they sell. In any case, it is designed to fit most seven chassis, mainly by not including any fixings and leaving
it for the builder.
The price list (based on a standard RAL gelcoat) is;
Rear tub £450
Front bonnet £450
2 x side pods £250
Sport pack body kit £350 (this appeared to be a set of flared arches that are bonded to the base kit)
Headlight covers £68
All including VAT.
I thought the finish looked quite decent, certainly not Ultima standard but quite capable of receiving a decent cut and polish rather than desperately
needing a paintjob.
I did take a copy of all the leaflets, if I manage to get my scanner working I'll try and upload them. They don't currently have a web
presence as far as I can tell which is a shame.
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Thanks all for all the info particularly slimy, I thought the same that the finish would be fine for a track car.
Is there a contact number on the flier by any chance?
I was considering this as a mod to our Locost and spoke to rob about it at Cadwell last year. I can confirm having put the tape on it then that the Locost is 6" longer so would need significant modding in the scuttle region to fit. Don't know about a Haynes chassis though...
Contact details:
Cyana Sports Cars
Unit 3 Chetwynd Street
Wolstanton
Newcastle-u-lyme
Staffordshire
ST5 0EQ
Telephone: 07773 390063
Email: rob_johnston, you'll need to add the .co.uk and the hotmail bits. I doubt he'll mind the little bit of extra publicity, but he could
probably do without the spambots!
[Edited on 8/5/12 by Slimy38]
at £450 quid wouldnt it be eaiser to cut and shut the fibreglass than modify a standard chassis/set up etc?
sorry of this is a daft suggestion, but having seen what some fibreglass folks can do foir not huge amounts of cash i do wonder if it would be easier.
That's what I would do, the split between the fore and aft sections would be a nice place for an additional six inches of fibreglass. Then you'd just need to split the lower sections and rebuild as required.
Brilliant info cheers, great these forums aren't they
Yes that would be approach, I would add the extra length to the front clam shell as I'm a sucker for a long bonnet
I also had an extended chat to Rob and got him to remove the front clam shell. The chassis is completely made out of CDS. It looks as rigid as a rigid
thing and well put together. The full kit comes out at about £5300 inc the dreaded. This is a proper race car and as such there isn't a road
registered one yet. I am in the process of putting together a budget to build one and am looking at between £12-14k to put one on the road. This will
include decent suspension, alloy hubs/uprights, compomotive wheels and 4 pot brakes and the running gear from a Honda S2000(engine/6sp box/prop/diff).
I rather think it will be a case of building it once for the IVA and then building it again to my spec. Because I have only one good arm, I will be
fitting a corsa electric power steering column which is quite popular with the rally boys. I did ask him if, since it was similar to the fury, it
could come with a full screen(elan) and he said yes they could do that. We even talked of bike power and he said that if I got the engine he would
modify the chassis round it! As soon as I have the required funds and somewhere to build it then I will be beating a path to his door.
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I like the look of that - shame it doesn't fit the Locost chassis - I'd be having that.
Think he could be persuaded to make a body to fit ? Sounds like there might be a market for it.
All you can do is ask...
i have got some pictures somewhere of the chassis before they built it up i will have a rummage and see if i can find them
found erm
Looks good doesn't it! I like the fact its completely built out of CDS. The only problem there might be at IVA time is with headlamp height. The ride height is lower than a snakes ass in a wagon rut! I was thinking about extended damper brackets that bolt between the lower damper rose joint and the wishbone mount raising the ride height by about 25mm then being removable with just a bolt to lower the car for hill climbing /sprinting/trackdays with out altering the set up/ corner weights etc. I was talking with Rob about having something that I could hill climb on the weekend then drive to Le Mans with out doing a complete rebuild! He sounds as though he can be really flexible as I only wanted a rear roll cage and he said that would be fine. Now to convince him it needs a hard top and doors….
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A few more for you.
It does look great. I think it will look absolutely knockout in silver grey metallic with minilights. I will be specking it with a full screen and
only a rear cage. Was looking at the performance figures for an S2000 and it weighs 1260kg which is quite light for a production car and still manages
the sprint to 60 in 6.2 secs. Now think how quick it will be after loosing HALF the weight….! This is what an on line calculator worked out.
Power to Weight: 387 bhp/ton
0-60: 3.9
0-100: 8.8
60-100: 4.9
1/4 Mile ET: 11.91
1/4 Mile Terminal: 114
I think we can ignore all the 1/4 mile stuff as I'm sure that would depend on gearing but all the same its still not too shabby!
I think it looks really good! I'm going to re clothe the fury in it once the rebuild is done. Have you spoken to Rob about the cost of the body with screen? My price list doesn't show it as an option, would much prefer it than an aero screen.
When we talked at stonleigh he did say he had the mould for the screen somewhere and it wouldn't take much to include it on a shell. Because of the low numbers of cars produced I think he would be quite open to it. The Striker chassis is similar in dimensions to the Cyana so it might be a go-er. As I want to IVA it when its done so I think Rob would be receptive, especially as I think the magazines would be quite keen to feature it in its final finished form. I wonder if the roof from a Raw Phoenix/Fisher Fury would fit? Could be the answer to all my prayers!
Does any body know the track width of the body work with the wide arches? I have heard 6' shorter wheel base than a locost but no mention of the width.
The wide arch kit iis to fir standard length sierra drive shafts, so will be much wider than standard locost
Just in case any one missed the other post.
These are the details that I have, however the phone number 07773 390063 does not seam to connect.
Brochure front
It did occur to me that I have a copy of the Stoneleigh show guide, but unfortunately they're not listed. Although I don't think he was
listed separately last year, I think the kit was on with the 750MC stand?
I can't get to Stoneleigh this year, could someone keep an eye out for it and see if there are some other contact details?
Last year Rob was with the 750mc stand. I'm hoping he'll be there again, as I was planning on ordering a body.
Fingers crossed!
A bit of Google stalking got me talking to Cyana's old neighbor at the address on the flyers and thay are no loner at the address.
I was also wanting to order a set of body work hence looking for them. I have posted over on the RGB forum to see if I can get old of the guy there
that has a set of the body work on his car.
Could you keep me posted if you manage to get hold of him? If he isn't doing the bodies any more that would some what scupper my plans!!
I Will post updates hear if I find anything.
Slow update I got hold of Rob and my body work has just been finished. Rob was great to deal with. There are a couple of pictures in the archive
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Slow update I got hold of Rob and my body work has just been finished. Rob was great to deal with. There are a couple of pictures in the archive
Good to hear yours is almost done Blake!
All of the details on the leaflets that are kicking around are completely wrong. If you want Robs details then u2u Blake or myself and we'll send
them over. I completely echo what blakes saying though, Rob was a true gent to deal with.
If you want any other pictures there are some in my build diary, and ill add more as it goes on.
Www.projectfisher.co.uk
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If you want Robs details then u2u Blake or myself and we'll send them over.
Im not sure if Rob wants them broadcast, he is pretty much a one man band just doing the shells to fund his racing. Ill text him and see if he minds.
The man from Cyana...he say yes! Lol
Robs number is: 07918 638546
Some pictures of my body with the body kit in place.
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so what color do you think will look good?
Not sure about the colour, but can I ask about the bodykit and how you fixed it? The black one they had at the show had very visible seams where the gap had been filled and then flexed, but yours seems quite smooth. Almost like it had been moulded like that rather than attached after?
Lovely chassis.
Any idea on price?
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Lovely chassis.
Any idea on price?
Thanks.
One point re the front shocks.
They look a little long? There appears to only be a few mm of compression left in them at that ride height?
Some pictures from my trip to see Rob at Cyana today.
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My chassis resting on a dummy floor.
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Rob's chassis in the jig for building up to the same stage as mine, at that point the chassis will be swapped over again and mine will be
finished off.
Some more pictures of the progress.
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Anyone after a body for their locost.... Take a look at this. http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4132&page=3
For anyone that was interested in this bodywork I have a complete brand new set + the wide body sports pack & lens covers in the for sale section. Its under the "project fisher for sale" thread.
Picked up my kit today
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/7/viewthread.php?tid=192165&page=1?#pid1615183
I still have a long way to go on my build. But Rob has finished his Cyana, hears are a couple of pictures of his car at Donington last weekend
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There are some more in my photo archive or blog if any one is interested
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That looks great, I am going to have to give him a ring soon as I am after one of his wide arch kits for my fury.
I have bias, and completely agree.