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Windscreen Glass

big-vee-twin - 7/3/16 at 08:41 PM

Anyone know where I can get a screen cut, preferably in Yorkshire?

designer - 7/3/16 at 10:00 PM

Any car windscreen company will cut a flat windscreen to a template.
I used Autoglass years ago.

[Edited on 7-3-16 by designer]

40inches - 7/3/16 at 10:46 PM

I had mine cut at a local conservatory/window place, cost Ł25-Ł30 in 6mm laminated.

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benchmark51 - 8/3/16 at 08:36 AM

Ive had a couple cut by Roman Glass. Ł25 while I wait.

http://www.romanglass.co.uk/glaziers.php

AntonUK - 8/3/16 at 06:43 PM

Side question... can you have shaped glass made or is that into the realms of silly money?

swanntech - 8/3/16 at 08:18 PM

just had screen glass cut at york glass suplies siward street 25 pounds for laminate glass

907 - 9/3/16 at 07:45 AM

I think it's worth a mention the the standard for car windscreen glass is different from bottom two panes of your double glazing,

not that I give a s**t what people use.

Paul G

big-vee-twin - 9/3/16 at 09:33 AM

Thanks all, a few options to look at, deffo don't want domestic glass.

mcerd1 - 9/3/16 at 10:00 AM

Any decent autowindscreen place should be able to do it

Btw they normally charge extra if you want the bit with the logo/standards on it (the bit you need to prove its the right glass for IVA tests etc)

Landrover defenders (and older series ones) use flat windscreens - some places just cut these as they need them too

[Edited on 9/3/2016 by mcerd1]

40inches - 9/3/16 at 10:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 907
I think it's worth a mention the the standard for car windscreen glass is different from bottom two panes of your double glazing,

not that I give a s**t what people use.

Paul G

What is the difference between domestic and automotive laminated glass?

907 - 9/3/16 at 11:41 AM

Double glazing has a generic, in my case, kite mark,

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and windscreens have to be traceable. If you Google the numbers you would find that the sheet glass
was made in China, to a German EU standard.

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Or to put it another way, the second is twice the price of the first.

Paul G

40inches - 9/3/16 at 11:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 907
Double glazing has a generic, in my case, kite mark,

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and windscreens have to be traceable. If you Google the numbers you would find that the sheet glass
was made in China, to a German EU standard.

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Or to put it another way, the second is twice the price of the first.

Paul G

Well it would be wouldn't it

But! What is the actual physical difference,apart from the 'E' mark, that would make domestic glass unsafe for automotive use?

[Edited on 9-3-16 by 40inches]

SJ - 9/3/16 at 12:23 PM

I'd also be interested for someone to say what the actual difference is. I have 4mm laminate form the local glass place in my car.
Stu

Irony - 9/3/16 at 01:15 PM

When you break a windscreen it stops in one piece do to the flexible laminate between the panes. It also won't form huge leathal shards to spear you in a accident. Domestic glass breaks into all sorts of weird and wonderful jagged shapes. Image them flying around in a accident.

SJ - 9/3/16 at 01:26 PM

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When you break a windscreen it stops in one piece do to the flexible laminate between the panes. It also won't form huge leathal shards to spear you in a accident. Domestic glass breaks into all sorts of weird and wonderful jagged shapes. Image them flying around in a accident.

What experience of domestic laminate have you got to say it behaves completely different to car laminate?

From what I've seen it works in exactly the same way.

Like this

[Edited on 9/3/16 by SJ]

40inches - 9/3/16 at 01:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Irony
When you break a windscreen it stops in one piece do to the flexible laminate between the panes. It also won't form huge leathal shards to spear you in a accident. Domestic glass breaks into all sorts of weird and wonderful jagged shapes. Image them flying around in a accident.

We are talking about domestic Laminated glass, I can't see it behaving any different to a windscreen made from laminated glass?

907 - 9/3/16 at 02:30 PM

It's a bit like Chen Shing tyres are a rubber ring much the same as a Michelin Pilot;

or Pound shop oil is the same as that long life stuff that Audi VW etc use. Oil is oil isn't it? or maybe not.

I bet if I looked up the spec sheets they'd be several pages thick, and I wouldn't understand them anyway.
If you have the right numbers embedded between the layers then in the event of a mishap there's no comeback.

Paul G

big-vee-twin - 9/3/16 at 11:27 PM

Apparently domestic laminated glass is not toughened, were as car windscreen glass is toughened and laminated.

This means domestic laminated glass when it breaks can form large shards but it stays in on piece were as car glass as its toughened shatters into many small pieces and also stays in one piece.

Toughened glass is also resistant to projectiles hitting it like stones.

SJ - 10/3/16 at 08:56 AM

You can get toughened and laminated domestic glass

907 - 10/3/16 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by SJ
You can get toughened and laminated domestic glass

This is true.

In the kite mark photo I posted it does say "express toughening".

Watching the window panel vid, when the rock hits the glass it shatters in all directions, but holds together because of the plastic membrane.

I've been passenger in a car when a big (25mm) stone hit the screen and the result was a crazed patch (egg size) and a single crack from the bottom to the top of the screen. We stopped till our ears stopped ringing, then drove on. The air pressure caused more cracks to radiate out as the journey progressed.

This is not an expert view, just the observations of a layman.

Paul G

Irony - 10/3/16 at 10:25 AM

I don't have a lot of experience with glass except I have kicked several footballs through domestic glass and none of them have been laminated. They have broken up into nasty shards that would be lethal in a accident.

I was in a lorry once and a pheasant hit the windscreen. It crazed and the birds body left a divot in the glass about 3 inch inwards. Quite a bang.

big-vee-twin - 10/3/16 at 08:21 PM

You can get toughened domestic glass, but generally it is not.