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How many engineers do we have here?
smart51 - 23/2/07 at 10:00 AM

How many qualified engineers do we have on here


macnab - 23/2/07 at 10:33 AM

You’re not an agency looking for engineers are you??

Cos you can take ours as their a bunch of f&$k'n idiots.


smart51 - 23/2/07 at 11:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
Hi

What if category do I put my title in if: (as I did) started as an apprentice mechanic, then did my HND Mec Eng course later in life ?



Hmm, You say you started as an apprentice, then you worked your way up. Tricky that one.

Do you work as an Engineer, doing design work, or validataion or problem solving. Do you work as a technician doing tests, setting and using up lab equipment or doing 1st level fault finding. Do you work as an operator loading samples into a machine and pressing the GO button.

[Edited on 23-2-2007 by smart51]


nick205 - 23/2/07 at 11:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
Hi

What if category do I put my title in if: (as I did) started as an apprentice mechanic, then did my HND Mec Eng course later in life ?


I'd say the "worked my way up from apprentice" category.

The first one is for people who went to uni, got the certificate and then had to learn how to do the job (no offence to graduates - I am in this category myself).


Moorron - 23/2/07 at 11:30 AM

hmmmmm.

i dont class myself as an engineer as i dont have any form of degree (beng ect). So im voting as a none engineer.

But, i have engineering qualifications at btec level AND i do exactly the same in this office as the Beng/Meng engineers so work that one out.

But im not the sort that classes myself as an engineer and all those who i meet who service boilers who say thay are engineers get a nice 'chat' from me about the real engineers job. I baffle them with stuff they could never do like 'ECN'S, DFMEA's, Requiment lists, FE, Process control, ISIR's, line balancing, IF, Geometric tolerances and that sort of stuff.


Big Daz - 23/2/07 at 11:34 AM

I would need to put the 1st 2 !!
Served an apprenticeship years ago and recently completed a BSc

Daz


martyn_16v - 23/2/07 at 11:47 AM

Awkward sod?


mackei23b - 23/2/07 at 11:52 AM

I've got a BSc in Engineering but the longest I worked for an engineering company (Ferranti) was 3 months and that was in the purchasing Dept!

I now work in business managment / HR having done a post grad etc.

So I think it is streching the truth now to say that I am an engineer!

Cheers

Ian


[Edited on 23/2/07 by mackei23b]


David Jenkins - 23/2/07 at 12:05 PM

No engineering training at all (who said "and it shows"!)

I am a post-graduate in computer gubbins, but use car and model engineering as a way of relaxation from all the computing b*ll*cks.

Always been a practical, hands-on sort of bod though...

David


thomas4age - 23/2/07 at 12:22 PM

Yep engineer with title,

but I'm a sound engineer so nothing constructive (and that's good thing)

grtz Thomas


mcerd1 - 23/2/07 at 12:35 PM

I scraped my way through a BEng in mech eng (only just got my hon's - I hate the theory/ science/ maths side of it) that was nearly 4 years ago

I went for an 'easy' life in structural steelwork design - learned (and still learning that) on the job for 9 months - then the other engineer quit and I was on my own here for the best part of 2 years


TimC - 23/2/07 at 12:35 PM

I make orange juice.


AdamR - 23/2/07 at 12:52 PM

Software engineer. I'm not chartered but could be if I could be arsed with the paperwork.


Sporty - 23/2/07 at 01:52 PM

Incorporated Electrical Engineer working in Railways. In a consultancy firm so don't actually do anything just tell people what to do.

Also specialise in voltages above 11,000V so not much good for car electrics.

Ian


Dave J - 23/2/07 at 02:07 PM

Mechanical and production engineer for the past 36 years. Building machine tools (lathes, grinding M/c's and so on) , research and development etc etc, run a Uni workshop,so I tentatively think of myself as an engineer........although........ racking my brains to sort a problem on the kitcar, coming up with all sorts of ingenious yet complicated solutions, the misses hits me with some female logic, solves the problem dead simply and utters those immortal words:

"Call yourself an engineer?"

Mumble under breath " I wish I'd thought of that"

What would we do without them guys!

Cheers

Dave


Jay k - 23/2/07 at 03:09 PM

I started as an motor vehicle apprentice worked upto a technician did that for 11 years and now work for a manufacturer as a technical support engineer.


DIY Si - 23/2/07 at 03:30 PM

Not really engineering related at all, but British Gas call me an engineer. I don't though, as all I do is change single and poly phase (410V) meters.
So I've gone for technician. I did try Uni twice, once for MEng Aero and once for Auto, but got so feed up I left after the first semester. There just wasn't enough grease involved!

[Edited on 23/2/07 by DIY Si]


omega 24 v6 - 23/2/07 at 04:02 PM

quote:

Do you work as an Engineer, doing design work, or validataion or problem solving.



No i work as an engineer who worked his way up from an apprentice, AND, currently do quite a bit of the hands on design work and problem solving for (alleged) engineers who are higher up than me and use the phrase "can't we just do it this way" at least once a day. The usuall answer is NO WE CAN'T followed by an explanation why. Then we give them a couple of options from the real world, and they choose one and call it their own. I'm sure many of you real "time served" engineeers will relate to this
It's not all what you read in books you know hands on people can be just as clever.


mcerd1 - 23/2/07 at 04:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sporty
Incorporated Electrical Engineer working in Railways. In a consultancy firm so don't actually do anything just tell people what to do.

Also specialise in voltages above 11,000V so not much good for car electrics.

Ian


Done anything on the CTRL project yet ?

-Robert


Syd Bridge - 23/2/07 at 04:28 PM

I grew up in a family building boats and commercial and special vehicles. Sprintcars and skiboats were the recreation. So got the manual skills on the way through from walking time. 'Can I help Grandad?'

Went to uni, then another one, then a few more letters at a place with '*IT' in the name. Now work half my time in overalls, the other half in front of the cad system. Prefer the overalls though.

Cars and boats, and some planes.

Cheers,
Syd.


Confused but excited. - 23/2/07 at 04:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Hmm, You say you started as an apprentice, then you worked your way up. Tricky that one.


Again, I trained as a mechanic, THEN moved to a totally differing direction/area & paid for my own HND in Mech Eng & stepped DIRECTLY into an engineering post offshore, so as an engineer I DIDN'T work my way up..... so again, whats the category for that ?


Lighthouse keeper?


02GF74 - 23/2/07 at 05:02 PM

my friend had a cup that had written on it "I wanted to be an engineor and now I are one".


mcerd1 - 23/2/07 at 05:22 PM

When I was at uni there were definatly 2 types of student/ lecturer

- the sciency ones who could do all the calcs but didn't know what a spaner is and don't much like getting there hands dirty

- and the much more practical ones who see the science side of this as a nessisary evil they'd rather avoid


Simon - 23/2/07 at 08:35 PM

I'm not and haven't the brain (wish I did) for the science behind it.

Anyway, my favourite type of "engineering" is the sort favoured by de Havilland when turning the Gypsy, in to the Tiger Moth.

Whole job was done on a fag packet, and worked.

A friend of mine left school with 9 or 10 "o"s at A grade, 4 A levels (applied and pure maths, pyshics and chemistry) at A grade and went on to do Engineering and Management Sciences at Manchester Uni, and is now.....

A Gardener

ATB

Simon

ATB

Simon


Syd Bridge - 24/2/07 at 11:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
Hi

What if category do I put my title in if: (as I did) started as an apprentice mechanic, then did my HND Mec Eng course later in life ?


quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
After I finished my degree for 3 or 4 months before getting my engineering post I worked as a mobility engineer (repairing wheel chairs & powered mobility scooters, stair lifts etc )



Is an HND a Degree??

I was told at Southampton Uni just a couple of days ago that, if you studied for a B.Eng (three year course), and left after one year, you got an HND.

It's people quoting this type of guff quoted above, who are degrading the worth of a 'proper' (and drawn out) education.

Cheers,
Syd.

[Edited on 24/2/07 by Syd Bridge]


DEAN C. - 1/3/07 at 10:42 PM

Hi,
I very rarely post on here now due to a couple of complete idiots on here,Hissing Syd being the the nastiest of them all.

Ban the cretin for being a poo stirrer!!
Yes I am being serious.

Yes I claim to be an engineer!!!!Just like him,..I just hope that i'm not so far up my own arse!!!!!!!!


Confused but excited. - 2/3/07 at 12:34 AM

When you light CaLvinX's touch paper, 'e really do go orbital don't 'e?
Way to go CaL!


locoboy - 2/3/07 at 07:30 AM

Load of plums,

What starts as a good thread more often than not gets ruined by a couple of pleople who like the sound of their own voice.

same old same old - YAWN


smart51 - 2/3/07 at 08:29 AM

Not surprising really the number of engineering types that choose to frequent this message board.

I am an engineer. I did a HND then a bachelor's degree then a postgraduate diploma. I've worked as an engineer for 13 years and I love making things. I consider myself to BE an engineer. After the thread calling for protected engineering status, I wanted to find out what people thought of themselves here. I get a bit annoyed with call centres calling their staff "engineers" when in some cases they are little more than delivery drivers or barely qualify as technicians. No-one admitted to installing TVs or washing machines. Either they dont thing of themselves as engineers or they know they'd get knifed on this board if the did.

[Edited on 2-3-2007 by smart51]


DEAN C. - 2/3/07 at 08:51 PM

You dont need to pretend to be anything on here to be knifed.
You just need a back to be stabbed in!!!


starfish - 4/3/07 at 12:02 AM

I never really had a technical education... but I learned everything I know from fooling around in my dad's factory, i've been welding things together from age 10...
have a look
and the real fun is that I'm building my locost there


Peteff - 4/3/07 at 12:18 AM

I used to work on a folder like that in a boiler factory many years ago. It wasn't LVG though it was a Promecam but I suppose they all look alike. We used to have some flywheel presses from WWII made by Bliss as well and the good old fly press for notching frames. You don't see many of those around these days.