goaty
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 07:51 PM |
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carbon mods quality??
Hey,
Ordered myself a carbon mods aeroscreen the other day, turned up very quickly as i know they are very busy from stoneliegh.
But, i am not impressed with the quality of it, it has air bubbles all over, a scratch/deep and brush marks that show all over it.
I know when its fitted and outside, all of this will show up. Not happy for the price tag of £150 odd, i have emailed them so will wait to see what
they say as i do want one, just one worth the cash.
Anyone else had issues with there items??
cheers
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blakep82
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 07:53 PM |
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there was a thread the other day with mixed reports
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LBMEFM
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 07:56 PM |
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I bought a carbon dash, it was ok but not over impressed. Barry
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jonesier1
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 08:00 PM |
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I have some stone gaurds for my rear wheel arches and they are fine.
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COREdevelopments
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 08:01 PM |
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i have bought front csr wings, aeroscreen, dash and rear boot panel and was impressed by the quality. although the boot panel did have a few
imperfections but most of it was cut out during fitting. They are usually pretty good. I purchased them all together and when i finally came round to
fitting them, which was a few months later i found out the boot panel was too small!! I quickly rang them up and they sent out a new bigger panel
asap. cant argue with that im sure they will sort it out for you.
only other problem i had was lack of receipts which i asked for twice.
Rob
[Edited on 11/5/09 by COREdevelopments]
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Dave Bailey
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 08:15 PM |
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I bought a dash a year ago and it was excellent along with some sill guards! I wonder if they have taken on too much and the quality is suffering.
They are good guys I have spoken to them a number of times so I would certainly give them a chance to sort it out!
Dave B
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scootz
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 08:15 PM |
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I've had a few bits and bobs from them... poor attention to detail, but their prices reflect that I suppose!
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thefreak
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 08:40 PM |
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Yeah I asked last week after picking up a dash from Stoneleigh. I looked at it in place and the parts where there's tugs in the weave will be
cut out. There are a few pin bubbles in the finish too
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Echidna
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 09:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by goaty
Hey,
Ordered myself a carbon mods aeroscreen the other day, turned up very quickly as i know they are very busy from stoneliegh.
But, i am not impressed with the quality of it, it has air bubbles all over, a scratch/deep and brush marks that show all over it.
I know when its fitted and outside, all of this will show up. Not happy for the price tag of £150 odd, i have emailed them so will wait to see what
they say as i do want one, just one worth the cash.
Anyone else had issues with there items??
cheers
Joe, i will have a similar aeroscreen available very soon. The price of mine would have been quite lower. I can't comment on carbon mod's
quality but i have to be honest and tell that carbon is VERY difficult to get right without the right tools and equipment. It's a completely
different beast to fiberglass.
Fiberglass is a cat and carbon is a lion.
Due to the inherent strength og carbon fibers, carbon fabric is extremely difficult to follow the curves of a complex part without the help of vacuum
consolidation. And i assume that carbon mods is making its parts with traditional wet layup, this is based to a video i have watched in their website.
You cannot make a very good carbon part (perfect is a difficult word here) without vacuum consolidation, be it vacuum bagging or vacuum infusion.
Traditional wet layup is not to be used when you make carbon parts.
Your carbon heatshield should arrive soon. I hope that you will be impressed by its quality! 
kitCARBON is the new carbon composite parts company specialising in kitcar parts. We can make parts to order in carbon, carbon/kevlar, kevlar,
texalium and more!
For any question, just U2U or email me at
theodragonas@gmail.com
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Triton
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 09:12 PM |
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As long as it's not seats aye me old mucker......
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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omega0684
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 09:23 PM |
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i got cycle wings from them, they were excellent, then i got ht aereoscreen, weave was stretched in places and it had a scratch on it, i should have
sent it back but i didn't 
my advice, send it back! don't settle for anything less than perfect!
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Echidna
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 09:38 PM |
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I really hope they don't clearcoat their final parts with spray lacquer... completely inadequate for any serious carbon part... 
1:31sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTWaV1imzs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carbonmods.co.uk%2FDepartments%2FGuides%2FCarbon-Fibre-Skinning.aspx&feature=
player_embedded
[Edited on 11/5/09 by Echidna]
kitCARBON is the new carbon composite parts company specialising in kitcar parts. We can make parts to order in carbon, carbon/kevlar, kevlar,
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 10:00 PM |
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Echidna,
It's not cricket to throw mud at a competitor, well at least it's not in my opinion anyway.
Why not let customers who have seen their work do the talking, and let your products do the talking for you?
Just a suggetion, obviously its a free forum. 
quote:
Originally posted by Echidna
I really hope they don't clearcoat their final parts with spray lacquer... completely inadequate for any serious carbon part...
1:31sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTWaV1imzs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carbonmods.co.uk%2FDepartments%2FGuides%2FCarbon-Fibre-Skinning.aspx&feature=
player_embedded
[Edited on 11/5/09 by Echidna]
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twybrow
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 10:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Echidna
I really hope they don't clearcoat their final parts with spray lacquer... completely inadequate for any serious carbon part...
For most people buying carbon bits, they are not 'serious carbon parts' as they are for show. Very few builders use it as a structural
component of their build.
For a well prepared series run of parts, I agree, lacquer is just not needed as you will have a good tool surface (assuming you use RTM, RTM-light,
infusion etc).
If you are a home builder, or you want to slow down the degradation of the epoxy under UV, then a clearcoat is a great idea. I can scratch all of my
CF, and it is nothing more than a bit of a rub down, and another lacquer, and it all looks good.
As others have said, if it ain't right, send it back.
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iank
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 10:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Echidna,
It's not cricket to throw mud at a competitor, well at least it's not in my opinion anyway.
While in general I agree 100%, commenting on techniques/materials being used on a youtube video from your competitor is fair game if you can defend
your assertions IMO. Whether carbon mods do/don't use rattlecan lacquer on their dashboards is an interesting question given the poor quality
reported by the OP.
Thing with all these handmade parts is it can depend on who made the item. People join/leave companies all the time, but it makes a big difference
for something like composite work (or welding).
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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blakep82
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| posted on 11/5/09 at 10:35 PM |
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watching the carbon mods video, yes its not the proper way to do carbon fibre, but as a way of getting carbo fibre look parts cheaply, its very good!
its cheap, but uses real carbon
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Echidna
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 04:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Echidna,
It's not cricket to throw mud at a competitor, well at least it's not in my opinion anyway.
Why not let customers who have seen their work do the talking, and let your products do the talking for you?
Just a suggetion, obviously its a free forum.
quote:
Originally posted by Echidna
I really hope they don't clearcoat their final parts with spray lacquer... completely inadequate for any serious carbon part...
1:31sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTWaV1imzs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carbonmods.co.uk%2FDepartments%2FGuides%2FCarbon-Fibre-Skinning.aspx&feature=
player_embedded
[Edited on 11/5/09 by Echidna]
At first view, you are absolutely right. Maybe my post has been written in the wrong way and sounded bad, but it is something i should mention like a
video i also have watched with a bunch of people building a kevlar canoe and consilidating the resin by hands without wearing any gloves!
There are a number of details that people are not aware if they have to be made this or that way. A customer should know the do's and
dont's in order to be in a position to evaluate a product in the right way. Did you know that rattle can lacquer is absolutely garbage for a
carbon part clearcoat? You should use high qualily automotive clearcoat to have a good finish and a good UV protection.
Do you prefer me to stop using expensive automotive clearcoat (as people thinks rattle can lacquer is what is needed) and keep some pennys in my
pocket or go out and comment about the bad quality of parts cleared with this material?
Is it that unfair to comment on a technique used wrongly or a wrong material while i have invested quite a lot of money to buy the equipment and more
expensive materials to get it right?
It should be more wise from my part to go and sell my vacuum equipment given that people are instructed that simple wet layup is what is needed to do
the job, get some money back into my pocket and this is all.
[Edited on 12/5/09 by Echidna]
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goaty
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 06:42 AM |
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well thanks for all the comments, seems they may not be ther best company in the world but i will wait to see what they get back to me with.
Some may say the quality is reflected in the price but if you are paying £150+ for something, i like it to be as advetised, perfect.
will see what they say, if they sort it i iwll be happy as i do still want one.
cheers again
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scootz
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| posted on 12/5/09 at 08:29 AM |
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Was Echnida really 'throwing-mud' at a competitor? I thought he was being pretty discreet with his opinion!
I was too in my first post on this thread, but what the heck... the products I received from them were pretty slap-dash, didn't give a weight
saving over my old GRP parts, and were brittle.
Personally, if I was just wanted CF for the 'bling' then I would just go and get some of the sticky-printed sheet... !
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goaty
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 06:42 AM |
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well they have got back to me saying they may have sent me a 2nd by mistake, offered a replacement plus give me the dfference in price back (about
£40) too.
Going to send it bacxk for good as i am not over impressed by it, thuink i woudl rather pay more for a fluke one.
cheers to all
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MikeLR
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| posted on 13/5/09 at 01:20 PM |
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How many more 2nds have been sent out by mistake !!
Mike
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