steve_gus
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| posted on 26/7/05 at 10:06 PM |
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I feel that if the forum is open to all types of kit car, (assuming that others are more prevalent than 'sevens' ) it may make the site a
bit too busy, there will be masses of postings, and it will be a bit hard to wade thro.
Im often wrong.
In Chris's shoes, I would see it as an opportunity to make some money by making the site more comercial - its pretty well indexed on the web.
Not sure if this is good tho for the site, and there may be much change.
atb
steve
[Edited on 26/7/05 by steve_gus]
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 10:34 AM |
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quote:
I feel that if the forum is open to all types of kit car, (assuming that others are more prevalent than 'sevens' ) it may make the site a
bit too busy, there will be masses of postings, and it will be a bit hard to wade thro.
I think Steve has hit the nail on the head.
I personally think it's a shame for the site to lose it's identity. HOWEVER...............I do sometimes feel that this site is becoming
less and less about building cars, and more about building ego's. The bottom line is that Chris created the site, and will do what he wants with
it.
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MikeR
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 11:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
I feel that if the forum is open to all types of kit car, (assuming that others are more prevalent than 'sevens' ) it may make the site a
bit too busy, there will be masses of postings, and it will be a bit hard to wade thro.
Im often wrong.
In Chris's shoes, I would see it as an opportunity to make some money by making the site more comercial - its pretty well indexed on the web.
Not sure if this is good tho for the site, and there may be much change.
atb
steve
[Edited on 26/7/05 by steve_gus]
Seem to remember you using a similar argument for the benefit of this site a few years ago in the yahoolist / locostbuilders
'discussions'. Seems strange that we're now at risk of getting 'too big'. I think sportscarbuilders covers what
we're all about. But as said, its chris's baby..........
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 11:55 AM |
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The change is a REALLY bad idea
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Scotty
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 12:16 PM |
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as stated it is chris's baby - if the change goes ahead as planned and people dont like it, they dont come back - people vote with their feet
(although in this case with their mice!)
[windup mode on]
BUT what about us contributors of recent, does that mean our "generous" contributions are being used to finance the new web site?
[/windup mode off]
( puts on metal helmet and runs ........... )
PLEASE NOTE! All comments made by this person are to be considered "Tongue in Cheek" and are not meant to be taken seriously in any way - so there!
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steve_gus
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 07:00 PM |
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I dont think we are 'too big' at present. If you look at the list of members, altho there are 1000s there is likely only a hundred or so
really active members. I dont think you can actually unsubscribe (bit hotel california) so there are likely loads of dead accounts, or still borns.
the reason Yahoo (TOL) self destructed was the high a$$hole factor on there. Too many people prepared to slag others off and get into verbal wars. It
got such that if anyone posted something erroneous, or off topic insults were thrown.
(You will still see O/T in listings there for that reason - to calm the purists. You can tell David Jenkins (as was I) is a veteran off TOL as he
tends to use that terminology here sometimes). David of course is a good guy 
Once, in my ignorance, I posted an engine poll. In it, two of the choices were crossflow and kent. I was (or the list was) informed in a most
unfriendly way that I knew jackshyte cos they are the same engine. In fact, even daring to post a poll got me shot down. Then I used the photo section
- which no one had till that point, and got accused of using too much.
I dont recall there being any insults, wars or major bust ups in the 3+ years i have been here. TOL was a war zone.
I hope that doesnt happen here.
atb
steve
[Edited on 27/7/05 by steve_gus]
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 07:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
You can tell David Jenkins (as was I) is a veteran off TOL as he tends to use that terminology here sometimes). David of course is a good guy
Aw... I'm blushing now! 
You're right about TOL though, unfortunately - there were a lot of really good guys on there who gave up because of the pillocks. You
don't get the same sort of arguments on a forum like this one - if a couple of people start a slanging match then everyone else turns off and
doesn't bother to read the thread any more. These spats tend to die of natural causes after a short time.
DJ
[Edited on 27/7/05 by David Jenkins]
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Alan B
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 07:38 PM |
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I'm actually a moderator on TOL...but I've not even looked at for months....
Here is fine....and I wish it didn't have to change...but if it must then I guess sportscarbuilder isn't too
bad...."kitbuilder" really misses out on the DIY element too much, even for those who buy a "seven" kit.....in reality IMO a
"seven" kit is really a locost with a purchased chassis....
Of course mine is a bit different anyway...isn't yours Steve?
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steve_gus
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 09:23 PM |
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yep. its different. Really must mention that more.  However, it just reminds me that I would have finished 2 years ago if it wasnt so friggin
different!
atb
steve
[Edited on 27/7/05 by steve_gus]
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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bob
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| posted on 27/7/05 at 10:48 PM |
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My vote is with sportscarbuilder,but its still sad to loose the locost name from the site.
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MikeR
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| posted on 28/7/05 at 04:46 PM |
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what about locostsportscarbuilders?
or perhaps a more accurate,
usuallylocostsportscarbuilders?
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escary
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| posted on 28/7/05 at 08:17 PM |
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Led Zepplin didn't change their name when they became popular did they?
I'm building a locost, with six lengths of steel and a push rod x flow engine and am very proud of my association with this site, and have
introduced a few to our collective ramblings.
One convert is also building now his own locost.
The reason is simple,we are locostbuilders , most people who buy mk's etc aren't just buying to do things quicker but don't have
total confidence in their welding or premises to do so. Plant costs are a big factor if you build one. I've spoken to several who don't
intend to stop after the first one, me either.
Kit buyers aren't cheats or lesser builders, maybe we are the building snobs by reminding people that we builders rather building a kit car.
All welcome to this site but locostbuilders for me guys.
All IMHO
Regards
Escary.
off for the flak jacket, take aim guys
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Marcus
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| posted on 30/7/05 at 04:08 PM |
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Looks like I'll have to change my sig. or risk the wrath of those big, butch Cobra boys
Marcus
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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pgpsmith
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| posted on 1/8/05 at 03:29 AM |
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* s i g h *
I'll miss you, Locostbuilders! I've learned a tremendous amount from this group of generous, humerous, and generally civil,
individuals.
May the spirit of the site somehow continue.
Pete Byar (23:29 Eastern Daylight-Savings Time, 31 July, 2005)
Live and don't learn, that's us. - Calvin and Hobbes
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Rorty
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| posted on 1/8/05 at 08:20 AM |
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I think this thread is a bit rude as it's ChrisW's site and he can do with it as he chooses. AFAIK, he has purchased the domain names, so
debating alternative names for the site is moot.
But, as everyone else is sticking their oars in, I'll add my eight farthings.
I don't want to mix with any small-penis money-bragging bling-ridden Cobra, Lamborghini or Ferarri replicas or ABS wheel-arch-extended spotty
young hatchback-drivers. 
If some benevolent person with a server and plenty of time on their hands were to set up a new forum pertaining to all that is sporty and home-built
in Britain, then I too would approve the name Sportscar Builders.
I will wait though to see if, or how long it takes for the rot to become unbearable.
And if the unclean infiltrators do transpire I will probably delete the forum from my favourites and resort to emailing lengthy disertations to myself
on all matter of car related topics, then disect them and disagree with myself.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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andyps
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| posted on 1/8/05 at 01:28 PM |
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I think it would be a shame to lose the focus on locost type cars, and would also be concerned about the site getting bigger and more crowded as Steve
has said. I am just back from holiday and it has now taken me 2 hours to quick scan the site as far as this - how long would it take if it was all
kits?
sportscarbuilders would be more appropriate as far as I am concerned if it has to change - particularly as I am not building a kit.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/8/05 at 04:55 PM |
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My personal point of view.
I have no right to comment - the man who created this site and keeps it all going may call it whatever he likes. I have no opinion and don't
think a name change or a lack of name change will make any difference. To those in the know, it's the only place to discuss kit cars and will
remain so.
Certainly, it is my first point of reference to anyone interested in kit cars of any sort.
Locostbuilders is definitely something to be proud of for all who have contributed and to the proud parent(s).
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alfasudsprint
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| posted on 1/8/05 at 05:06 PM |
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I would point out the difference in spirit between kitcars and locosters (by locoster I include poeple who buy a chassis) That spirit is, can i do it?
I never did before, lets look on the site for advice, ok, I'll give it a go! When i read kitbuilders sites they make a big deal about making
there own bracket for an accelerator cable! That is what makes this site different, if a name change also changes that spirit, its not good. but, its
your site Chris...and to now its been excellent.
Tim
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 3/8/05 at 09:54 PM |
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You can do "locost" even when you are building a kit. For example when I was building the Tiger I could have bought the engine mounts for
££££ from Tiger, but I didn't I made some myself. Same for the alternator bracket, rollbar not to mention the alterations to the chassis and
body work to get everything to fit properly. It strikes me that most home built cars have a degree of fettling required to make things fit properly.
So locostbuilders works for me. Most people find the site anyway when they are building a car of some sort.
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