westy turbo
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| posted on 11/7/09 at 08:16 PM |
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CSRs mounting
Need your help here about which the folowing to use
http://www.bighead.co.uk/products/maleStud.html
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mookaloid
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| posted on 11/7/09 at 09:03 PM |
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I apologise if I'm being a bit thick but what are you talking about? 
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westy turbo
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| posted on 11/7/09 at 09:06 PM |
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Need to know wich mounts to get about mounting my cycle wings
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Chippy
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| posted on 11/7/09 at 10:26 PM |
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None of the above! Cheers Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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Major Stare
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| posted on 11/7/09 at 10:38 PM |
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Jon "FISH"
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westy turbo
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 06:18 AM |
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Why no one? ive heard people saying that the front wings are falling apart while in high speed when mounted with adeshives...or thats not gonna happen
with sikaflex? cant you put those metal mounts under the wing and "build"around it with fibre make a hole through the wing carrier and
the secure with nuts underneeth?thanks for your input.....just trying to find the correct way of doing it
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snapper
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:42 AM |
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I brazzed bolts onto 4" wide by width of cycle wing perforated steel plate then bonded them on with half a tube of Sikaflex per plate (2 wings 2
plates per wing + 2 tubes of Sikaflex) pushed well down and made sure all the plate was covered, left overnight to cure.
This was done with new wings which were very clean, perforated steel plate was also new, clean and rust free.
The wings are now very firmly attached and i have some height adjustability.
No bolts showing, looks neat and clean.
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nitram38
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:42 AM |
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I haven't got any photos, but what I did on the MotaLeira is mount two 12mm round bars with a right angle from my hub so that they bend over the
tyre top.
These 12mm bars are at 45 degrees to each other, that is if you look at the wheel from the side. This means that the bends are stronger.
I drilled a hole in the csr side lip to enable to slide them onto the bars.
A dab of adhesive (lots of types available) allowed me to set the csr in relation to the wheel/tyre. I left this to go off for 24hrs.
Once dry, I took the wheels off and from underneath the csr put lots of adhesive around the bar and then pushed strips of fine aluminium mesh over
the bar, into it, so increasing the surface area and trapping the bar in a "sandwich".
To finish off, a bit more adhesive around the hole in the csr where the bar goes through.
So far, so good. Newark and back plus a few more spirited drives on less than perfect roads and they are still solid.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 07:50 AM |
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Sikaflex doesn't seem to work too well on carbon fibre wings. Guess how I know?
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westy turbo
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:20 AM |
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Thanks for your answers!was thinking the 58mm square ones fro the link above,wha you think?( 4 in each wing)
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nitram38
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 08:26 AM |
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There is only about 5mm clearance under my bars to the tyre surface. Are you sure that you will have enough clearance for the nut?
Also the fact my bars run through the side wall of the csr increase the strength. I wouldn't use those small pads and trust them.
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westy turbo
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 09:10 PM |
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At 5mm deffo it wont bolt but has to do that are no same cars or correctly say maybe not the same mounts,honestly i dont know....just heard that are
been usd alot
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Chippy
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| posted on 12/7/09 at 10:21 PM |
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I think you may have the wrong end of the stick here mate, it's not the PU that gives way, it's the wing stay itself that will break at
some point. I had a front wing stay break and the wing was still very firmly fixed to it with EVOSTIC Serious Stuff, (much cheeper than Syca) All I
did to ensure that the EVO stuck well was to sand the inside of the wing with "rough" glass paper in the area that the stay was, and also
drilled four 4.5 mm holes in the stay so the EVO would go through and could be moulded onto the underside. Niether wing has become seperated from the
stay, stay broke. HTH Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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westy turbo
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| posted on 14/7/09 at 08:40 PM |
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Makes sense,but i thought by adding contact surface,(the mount on the link that i post) "holds" more space from the wing,so the forces are
spreaded more equally,and only to the piece of metal(bracket) thats attached to the wing.just a though
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DarrenW
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| posted on 15/7/09 at 10:33 AM |
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my wings are bonded. Both came loose after 3 years / 7000 miles. on both it was rust on the bars that caused them to come loose. If you can prevent
the bars rusting you will have a better chance. I cleaned mine up and drilled holes thro the bars when refixing, sikaflex then squidged through holes.
As said above, removed wheels after initial bond and applied more underneath. Ive heard some people say better fix is to use grp to bond them on (with
grp wings of course, not sure about carbon fibre wings).
I also think adding large mud flaps helped mine to become detached quicker, but they stop you getting a face full of whatever you have just driven
through.
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westy turbo
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| posted on 15/7/09 at 07:46 PM |
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Thank you all for your inputs!
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