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supercat

posted on 16/7/10 at 06:59 PM Reply With Quote
Bonding CF to metal

Thought this might be better here - I have Carbon Fibre rams on my TB's, but 3 of the 4 recently decided to part company with the metal mounting rings (luckily getting stuck in the engine bay!). The question is what to stick them back with? Needs to be something oil/petrol resistant with maybe a little bit of 'give' to overcome the vibration? It looks like they were stuck on with epoxy before but either it wasn't mixed properly or hasn't taken....

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James

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Volvorsport

posted on 16/7/10 at 07:01 PM Reply With Quote
jenvey bond them with epoxy.





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RichardK

posted on 16/7/10 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
doesnt sikaflex stick everything to anything!

Think it fuel/oil resistant too

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rusty nuts

posted on 16/7/10 at 08:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
doesnt sikaflex stick everything to anything!

It didn't stick my Carbonmods front wings too well as I found out on the A14 at 70MPH!

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vyperstrype

posted on 16/7/10 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
Ditto the above.





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hobzy

posted on 16/7/10 at 08:39 PM Reply With Quote
Ditto twice for my scoop to as I discovered this morning on the A3, luckily 2 mounts held...






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tomgregory2000

posted on 16/7/10 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
that sounds like bad prep to me

my wings were held on with sika 291 and were a propper bitch to remove to fit the bigger ones

Sikaflex does stick everything to everything but only if the PREP is done propperly

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Dusty

posted on 16/7/10 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
Sikaflex is not resistant to petrol. Slowly turns to goo.
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hobzy

posted on 16/7/10 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
that sounds like bad prep to me

my wings were held on with sika 291 and were a propper bitch to remove to fit the bigger ones

Sikaflex does stick everything to everything but only if the PREP is done properly


Keep going... what might I have done wrong? Genuine question...






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RazMan

posted on 16/7/10 at 11:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty
Sikaflex is not resistant to petrol. Slowly turns to goo.


I have to disagree - I have used it as a pump / sender gasket with no problems in nearly four years.





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tomgregory2000

posted on 17/7/10 at 06:36 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hobzy
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
that sounds like bad prep to me

my wings were held on with sika 291 and were a propper bitch to remove to fit the bigger ones

Sikaflex does stick everything to everything but only if the PREP is done properly


Keep going... what might I have done wrong? Genuine question...


well the prep work i did for my wings and stays was to sand the inside of the wing and the metal stay with grade 24 (its just like small rocks) sand paper and then degreased with acetone and then degreased with acetone and new cloth and then a final degrease with acetone and new cloth, then aply the sikaflex and strap the arch in place and do not move it for 48 hours

thats it

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cliftyhanger

posted on 17/7/10 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
Plus you need to get the corect sikaflex. And maybe avoid the cheaper options of "similar" products.
Must say though that proper sikaflex is proper expensive (at least compared to tigerseal etc)

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rusty nuts

posted on 17/7/10 at 12:03 PM Reply With Quote
I used a brand new tube of Sikaflex , cleaned and degreased the wings and stays several times , left them for 48hrs as above and the wing still came off. My old GRP wings were still on after 5 years stuck with the same type of Sikaflex and yes it was genuine Sikaflex
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supercat

posted on 17/7/10 at 03:22 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Volvorsport
jenvey bond them with epoxy.


I'll give epoxy a go - any suggestions what I should clean them up with?

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James

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