coozer
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 11:37 AM |
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Tintop Water Ingress?
My little Pug 106 fills up with water every time it rains
Its a P reg and this has only just started happening. It seems to be coming in from the drivers side sill, its full of water and then collects in the
rear footwell driver side.
Interior is out atm while I try and find the leak, I've had a bit of board under the sunroof to see if its that but its dry, the water
collecting underneath.
Could it be the drivers door seal?
Any other ideas peeps?
Steve
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 11:44 AM |
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Get a willing fish....er helper to sit in the car while you smother it with water from a hose. Try and make sure you hit it from all angles as driving
rain would.
HTH
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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balidey
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 11:49 AM |
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Two places that can cause such a leak that you would not dream of are...
Rear lights. Rubber seals may not be sealing, and water gets in behind lights into the chassis.
Uner the bonnet where the struts mount there are often large open sections, my Pug 206 filled up here as the drain hole was blocked, the water level
rose until it came in over the pedals.
The door seals are usually not the culprits
Dutch bears have terrible skin due to their clogged paws
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balidey
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 11:51 AM |
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also, check the sunroof drains, you have checked its not leaking in at the top, but perhaps the lower ends of the drain pipes are letting water into
the sills. Infact, are there any other drains in the sill that need un-blocking? Water getting into the chassis is not always a problem.... as long as
you let it out again.
Dutch bears have terrible skin due to their clogged paws
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britishtrident
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 12:11 PM |
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Heater plenum/scuttle intake drains.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 12:23 PM |
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do check if the sill can drain at the bottom, if the drain holes get blocked then they will fill up with water over time. Had this happen on my last
Bluebird where I thought I could seal them up and fill the sills with oil to prevent them ever rusting from the inside, later checked and they were
completely full of water! and there's not even any drain pipes to them
[Edited on 4/2/11 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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vinny1275
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 01:16 PM |
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On my Passat, it was where the bonnet cable comes in through the scuttle - the grommet had got shifted at some point, and everything that came down
the windscreen ended up in the footwell....
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martyn1137
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 01:27 PM |
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My daughters 10 year old Fiat Bravo suffered phantom water ingress for a while. The source became apparent once sunroof drain pipes got completely
blocked with krud. Passenger then got a shower on left handers.
It was a bit of a performance to clean then though, an airline may help if you track it to these pipes.
Also it is a devil of a job to dry out a wet car interior in the winter as Im sure you are finding.
Good luck.
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Daf
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 04:55 PM |
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A good way of finding leaks is take the carpets out and other trim then put talcum powder all over the place.
Leave the car in the rain or make artificial rain with a hose pipe and the runs can easily be traced in the talc
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macc man
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| posted on 4/2/11 at 06:45 PM |
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I had water ingress problems with both of my vans. More so in winter. Turned out to be condensation build up on roof, led to pooling in headlining.
When brakes applied you got a nice shower.
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coozer
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| posted on 6/2/11 at 01:17 PM |
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The water is coming out of the driver side sill, it fills up until it seeps out of the seat bolt hole.
No idea how it gets in there, anyone know where the draining holes are? I've had a look and can't see much...
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 6/2/11 at 04:14 PM |
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Probably a little raised section of the outer sill where it joins the inner sill? you should be able to poke a piece of wire /stick into it to clear.
If all else fails a couple of drain holes drilled into the sill would be better than them filling with water IMHO
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DarrenW
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| posted on 7/2/11 at 02:30 PM |
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defo worth making sure sunroof drains are clear. often there are pipes going down to floor area (outside). Ive also had a sunroof seal fail on a 106
but was easy to see as headliner was wet.
Are drains in bottom of doors clear? Dont some cars have drains in bottom of sills too?
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nick205
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| posted on 7/2/11 at 03:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
The water is coming out of the driver side sill, it fills up until it seeps out of the seat bolt hole.
No idea how it gets in there, anyone know where the draining holes are? I've had a look and can't see much...
Steve,
IIRC the drain holes are at the front of the sills almost into the wheel arch itself, possibly with a little rubber grommet thingy.
Re: sunroof, does it actually have any drain tubes? Again IIRC the glass tilt oly sunroofs commonly fitted don't have them, tey just seal
against the rubber when closed.
Nick
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