daveb666
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 08:17 AM |
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Cycle Wing Stays
Last week one of the arms on my passenger side cycle wing bracket snapped, I temporarily bodged it back together and then on Saturday the other side
of that bracket also snapped!
The brackets have always been quite springy so I always suspect they'd go.
I have cortina uprights and KitSpares sell some of these:
http://www.kitspares.co.uk/shop/item.php?product=4967
Do most people make their own, or buy off the shelf? If the latter does anyone have any experience of how solid the Kit Spares ones are?
Thanks
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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Dick Axtell
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 08:27 AM |
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Rally Design
I recommend these, from Rally Design :-
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=11858
As fitted -
 
Fr_WingStay_01
[Edited on 21/10/13 by Dick Axtell]
Work-in-Progress: Changed to Zetec + T9. Still trying!!
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daveb666
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 08:32 AM |
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jeesus those look heavy - are they weighty? lol
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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Dick Axtell
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 09:11 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daveb666
jeesus those look heavy - are they weighty? lol
AFAIR - about half Kg each. Other examples have proved to be too flimsy, according to various reports on here.
Work-in-Progress: Changed to Zetec + T9. Still trying!!
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wicket
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 10:34 AM |
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I had this type and they failed several times, they broke at the welded joint between the flat piece and the rod at the bottom.
In the end I cut off the flat sections and remade them out of 16swg wall thickness steel tube that was a good fit over the rod section. The section of
the tube was crushed flat where it attaches to the wing and a local machine shop formed them and welded them to the rods after I had jigged them in
the correct position. I will put a couple of pictures shortly.
[Edited on 21/10/13 by wicket]
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daveb666
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 10:39 AM |
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These are my current breakages:
 
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and the wing wobble a fair bit anyway. I want something that makes it solid, but hopefully won't require future maintenance as I don't
have a welder so can't easily fix things like this.
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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wicket
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 10:57 AM |
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Pretty much where mine broke. There are a couple of drgs in the photo archive of the new tubular pieces, in 2 pieces as the drg was to big for our A4
scanner; and a few photos of the finished stays fitted. Very sturdy and no sign of breakage after 2 years of use.
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pewe
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 11:34 AM |
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I just keep welding mine up when they break - tried lots of different configurations but it's a constant problem
Was thinking of something like  " target="_blank">this
which I saw on an Italian 50's Osca.
Might be a bit over-engineered though?
Cheers, Pewe10 
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40inches
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 11:42 AM |
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I cut the flat section off mine (MK/Sierra) and replaced with a bent tube that dlid into the larger tube, nearly 1700 miles since June
and still in one piece.
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daveb666
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 12:00 PM |
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I need just get mine taken off first; annoyingly my brake lines join on an additional bracket on the wing stay so I need to chop that bit off first 
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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daveb666
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 12:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
I cut the flat section off mine (MK/Sierra) and replaced with a bent tube that dlid into the larger tube, nearly 1700 miles since June
and still in one piece.
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Yours look more solid than mine to begin with!
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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40inches
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 01:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daveb666
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
I cut the flat section off mine (MK/Sierra) and replaced with a bent tube that slid into the larger tube, nearly 1700 miles since June
and still in one piece.
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After
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Yours look more solid than mine to begin with!
They still break at the flat section though,tubular is the way to go. You know it makes sense 
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40inches
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 01:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daveb666
I need just get mine taken off first; annoyingly my brake lines join on an additional bracket on the wing stay so I need to chop that bit off first
Strange! Wonder why the flexy doesn't go straight to the caliper?
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Dick Axtell
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 01:29 PM |
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Strange! Wonder why the flexy doesn't go straight to the caliper?
'Cos the IVA tester didn't like what happened to my original armoured flexis. On my car, there was a foul condition at full lock, and
potential problems with fitting a longer flexi hose. Simplest soluion was to fit the original Cortina bracket, and a bridge pipe from sais brkt to the
caliper. IVA man happy - result!
Work-in-Progress: Changed to Zetec + T9. Still trying!!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 01:29 PM |
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they really should get thicker as they get closer to the upright or at least have a stiffener (or haunch) to give the same effect
also any bends / flattening of tubes should be done hot (or at least heated afterwards) to relieve any residual stresses caused by shaping it
(residual stress + vibration + cantilever design = )
I quite like my dax ones (not 100% convinced by the weld on the wends but they don't seem to break very often on other folks cars....)
(obviously they are for a sierra upright, but you get the idea with the big/long stiffeners)
[Edited on 21/10/2013 by mcerd1]
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40inches
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 01:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dick Axtell
quote:
Strange! Wonder why the flexy doesn't go straight to the caliper?
'Cos the IVA tester didn't like what happened to my original armoured flexis. On my car, there was a foul condition at full lock, and
potential problems with fitting a longer flexi hose. Simplest soluion was to fit the original Cortina bracket, and a bridge pipe from sais brkt to the
caliper. IVA man happy - result!
Yep! I had the same problem, eventually got Mr Bost to make up some flexies with 45degree ends, that worked
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daveb666
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 02:17 PM |
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Another pic of mine:
 
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Just been told my new carbon cycle wings are soon on their way so I'll temporarily bodge this one back together and get a new pair sorted for
the new wings 
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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theprisioner
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 02:20 PM |
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see:http://westfieldbusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/mud-flaps-wing-stays-shocks-and-aero.html
http://sylvabuild.blogspot.com/
http://austin7special.blogspot.co.uk/
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daveb666
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 02:28 PM |
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quote:
see:http://westfieldbusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/mud-flaps-wing-stays-shocks-and-aero.html
Extra 'leg' on the support?
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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theprisioner
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| posted on 21/10/13 at 05:42 PM |
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Third leg: I did this to my last Westfield and never had a problem since.
http://sylvabuild.blogspot.com/
http://austin7special.blogspot.co.uk/
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