mikey
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 posted on 6/1/05 at 06:55 AM |
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log book
Hi
i am about to buy a kitcar,
the seller says it is registered as a
1972 Ford MK1 Mexico ( it is escort based)
Is this legal, how do i know its properly registered ?
i seen adverts saying properly registered as correct model
does this mean most people running old kit cars are using the donor V5
Thanks
mikey
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 6/1/05 at 07:43 AM |
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ooooo er, think its time to walk away or negoiate major discount, what kit is it BTW ?
if its been built a while it aint been properly registered.
if its been built recentley it aint been thru the SVA.
sorry to bear bad news but its gotta be real cheap or walk away.
by real cheap i mean cheap enough to spend whats req'd to get it SVA'd and legal for the original asking price.
[Edited on 6/1/05 by Jon Ison]
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mikey
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| posted on 7/1/05 at 02:19 PM |
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log book
hi
its a dutton melos
1600xf
whats it worth ?
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jacko
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 posted on 7/1/05 at 06:10 PM |
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Sorry but walk away as Jon sayes
Jacko
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JoelP
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| posted on 7/1/05 at 07:02 PM |
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yep, next to nothing is the value. IMHO
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britishtrident
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| posted on 7/1/05 at 08:16 PM |
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The irony is back at the time of the rule changes that came with the SVA the DVLA were quite co-operative about sorting out mis-registered kit cars
without too much hassle but this far down the line I suspect that situation has changed a bit.
Of course at one time it might have actually been registered as a Dutton and the Dutton documents swapped to avoid SVA on a new build -- either way
it spells hassle.
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mikey
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| posted on 8/1/05 at 05:13 PM |
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log book
Just suppose i buy it and run it
as this guy has.
Except when i get pulled by the police
nobody knows what it is registered as
The MOT man does not know
The Tax people do not know
so when i get caught by the police
what crime have i committed ( the car is not stolen)
and what penalties have been dished out
Has anybody been caught doing this ?
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 8/1/05 at 05:45 PM |
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or (god forbid) you have an accident in it.......??
i would give 2 bits of advice....
1) leave it alone.
2) Buy it for peanuts and make it legal.
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paulf
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| posted on 8/1/05 at 05:58 PM |
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The problem is what do you insure it as?.Also remeber that now the police can follow you and do an id check,if it comes back to them as an escort they
may be a bit akward.
Its only really any good for parts,engine ,box prop and axle
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by mikey
Just suppose i buy it and run it
as this guy has.
Except when i get pulled by the police
nobody knows what it is registered as
The MOT man does not know
The Tax people do not know
so when i get caught by the police
what crime have i committed ( the car is not stolen)
and what penalties have been dished out
Has anybody been caught doing this ?
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JoelP
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| posted on 8/1/05 at 06:00 PM |
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crimes could include not complying with the laws regarding number plates and invalid insurance. You will have trouble MOTing it soon, ISTR that there
is a computer system coming out that will catch out vehicles like this. hence no tax too.
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mikey
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| posted on 12/1/05 at 03:58 PM |
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log book
Nothing definite then !
how come most beach buggies
are registered as beetle convertables
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ned
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| posted on 12/1/05 at 04:00 PM |
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beetles are different as they can be registered as rebodies because they keep the original chassis.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Marcus
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| posted on 12/1/05 at 09:12 PM |
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If you'd rather have a beach buggy, I'll sell you one in bits!!
Marcus
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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mikey
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 07:00 AM |
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no thanks
i think i will stick to this kit car
negotiate a big discount
and run it on the escort log book
i know its wrong
but its not the crime of the century
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Bananaman
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 09:09 AM |
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So what happens when you have an accident and hurt/kill someone and your insurance is invalid. What then? You couldn't raise enough money to pay
the compensation. I think that you'll be spending time at Her Majesty's pleasure.
Be sensible, don't do it. Personally if you do buy it and run it I hope that someone dobs you in.
Cheers
Michael
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wicket
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 01:00 PM |
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Mikey, a very selfish attitude.
The vast majority of people building kits keep within the law and regulations although it may seem a big pain in the a**e at times. People like you
are potentially going to make it even more difficult in the future, and who knows may even put a stop to kit buildng althogther.
Eric
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barrie sharp
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 01:08 PM |
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IMO i think its been brought already?
the cars looking good" a blind man would be pleased to see it"
''stop press'' the blind mans seen it said "it felt ok"
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mikey
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 06:03 PM |
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OK
Apart from the insurance issues
can anybody tell me what the penalties are for doing this ?
Has anyone got the balls to admit to
running a kit on a suspect log book
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DavidM
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| posted on 14/1/05 at 12:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mikey
OK
Apart from the insurance issues
can anybody tell me what the penalties are for doing this ?
Has anyone got the balls to admit to
running a kit on a suspect log book
I think you're on the wrong site.
You need www.sportspowerdrive.co.uk
atb
David
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Marcus
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| posted on 14/1/05 at 09:06 PM |
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'I think you're on the wrong site.
You need www.sportspowerdrive.co.uk '
Ouch!!!
Why do we insure cars at all, if that's your attitude. It's not for the drivers benefit, it's the poor buggers you hit!!
Marcus
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 01:01 AM |
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OOOhh!
The best of it is the mexico log book is probably worth a few bob.
If you own a house or have a family please dont run this as it is!
You would in the event of an accident loose the lot!
It is not just a petty crime, it's reckless!
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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mikey
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 08:23 AM |
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are you sugesting i sell
my tax exempt mexico log book
isnt that illegal !!!!
mabe i should just swap it for
a tax exempt
dutton log book
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 10:59 AM |
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You could always put it through SVA
Have a look HERE for one persons experience with an incorrectly registered kit car.
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mikey
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 02:07 PM |
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bloke brought it on himself
he wasnt caught
no mention of invalid insurance in article
and hes supposed to be a pillar of society
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RoadkillUK
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 02:08 PM |
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You don't get tax exemption on a kit car if it's been registered correctly as tax exemption only applies if the car has the original
chassis (or something like that).
I read that somewhere but I'm damned if I can find it atm.
Roadkill - Lee
www.bradford7.co.uk
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