oliwb
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 08:43 AM |
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Classic Car Tax
Anyone experienced this before??
My Tiger is on a 1970 "H" reg age related plate. But shows date of registration in the logbook as 2006. Since its pre '73
registration number I'm wondering if I should be able to get a free tax disc and if so how??
My logic is that it was inspected by the DVLA who said that enough original parts were re-used in order to give it an age related plate. It has all
the benefits in every other area eg emissions test etc. Now if they say its not shouldn't that mean that I should not have been given an age
related plate?? In which case what should it be a Q? I know that the DVLA never work to your advantage but I honestly can't see a reason why
they shouldn't but maybe someone has been there and tried that! Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 09:17 AM |
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Classic tax is given based on the date of first registration, not the reg number, sorry!
[Edited on 11/11/07 by matt_claydon]
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Humbug
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 09:30 AM |
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...and since it is not the original chassis, the original H-reg car no longer exists
hard luck!
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bjw970s
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 10:40 AM |
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However....
If the DVLA judged it to be 1970 Reg based upon the percentage of bits in it, it would do no harm to writing to them explaining the situation and see
what they say.
I have had to write to them before and got results - write and explain why it was considered worthy of a 1970 reg and see what happens.
Don't ask don't get.
As someone else once said 'LOCOST my Ar**
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oliwb
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 10:52 AM |
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Thats sort of what I figured. Surely its got nothing to do with the chassis. If that was the case no kit cars would ever have age related plates
they'd either have brand new ones or Q's. But thats not the case. I'l give it a go and see what happens. Might just wonder in to
a quiet postoffice in the vilage and see what they say when I ask. Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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Humbug
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 11:59 AM |
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go and look at the DVLA regs. There is a difference between retaining the original reg (=tax-exempt) and age-related (same year as original reg)
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/DG_10014246
"A vehicle will retain its donor registration mark if either the original unmodified chassis or unaltered monocoque bodyshell and two
other major components are used"
and
"If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer is used (or an altered chassis or bodyshell from an existing
vehicle) together with two major components from a donor vehicle, an age related mark will be assigned. The mark will be based on the age of the donor
vehicle."
Don't use the original chassis = don't retain the original reg = not tax-exempt
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wilkingj
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 12:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
Classic tax is given based on the date of first registration, not the reg number, sorry!
[Edited on 11/11/07 by matt_claydon]
Sorry Matt... It has to be Manufactured NOT Registered on or before 31 Dec 1972 to qualify.
for Historic Status. The "Tax Exmept" is now called "Historic" still gets you Zero rated tax...
Its a great feeling getting a Tax Disc at the post office and not having to pay for it.
Been there... done that with a 1970 Land Rover.
There are now very very few unregistered Tax Exempt vehicles left undiscovered.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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thunderace
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 01:29 PM |
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if its not the chassis is not pre 1972 you have no chance sorry.
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 03:06 PM |
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Quote; "Sorry Matt... It has to be Manufactured NOT Registered on or before 31 Dec 1972 to qualify.
for Historic Status. The "Tax Exmept" is now called "Historic" still gets you Zero rated tax... "
Does this mean, that if one purchases a chassis manufactured before 31 Dec 1972, that was never used as part of a registered vehicle and you can show
a receipt from the constructor, showing the date of manufacture of said chassis, you can claim Historic Vehicle status? 
[Edited on 11/11/07 by Confused but excited.]
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 11/11/07 at 05:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Sorry Matt... It has to be Manufactured NOT Registered on or before 31 Dec 1972 to qualify.
for Historic Status. The "Tax Exmept" is now called "Historic" still gets you Zero rated tax...
Yep, that is correct, although in the absence of evidence of date of manufacture DVLA will go by date of first registration. After all - it
can't have been registered before it was manufactured!
Either way, a kit built on a historic donor was a) not built before 1973 and b) is not historic! There has been an official answer from DVLA on this
in the past.
On a similar note you can't put a newer personal plate on an (eg H-plate) age-related kit car even though the V5 will say resistered in 2007. It
might seem like it at times but DVLA (and customs/excise who make the tax rules up) aren't stupid! (it's just that the local offices
don't keep in sync with head office).
[Edited on 11/11/07 by matt_claydon]
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