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buncefm - 23/6/07 at 09:36 AM

cant find any thing on price of bike engine costs using the search, so what kind of money are you looking at to install a zx12 engine? also how does it compare to other options ie: busa, fireblade, R1 and so on......
just while im thinking, does anyone have a comparison of performance of all the above engines?

nib1980 - 23/6/07 at 09:44 AM

try yorkshire engines, he's a user on thi site and apparently very helpful, I' don't know as I'm old skool xflow.

JoelP - 23/6/07 at 09:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by buncefm
cant find any thing on price of bike engine costs using the search, so what kind of money are you looking at to install a zx12 engine? also how does it compare to other options ie: busa, fireblade, R1 and so on......
just while im thinking, does anyone have a comparison of performance of all the above engines?


general costs would be an exhaust (3-400), a sprocket adapter (£50), a prop (£200), and an air filter (£50ish). Sorting the gear link, clutch and throttle will add another £50. Then there are engine specific things, like does it need a chopped sump, surge plates, dry sump etc. Oil cooler? Standard clocks or digidash?

Hammerhead - 23/6/07 at 09:44 AM

search for malc at yorkshire engines.

buncefm - 23/6/07 at 09:49 AM

my old mans just built a x-flow but now im keen to get some thing with a bit more umph and a nice soundtrack. thanks for the input

buncefm - 23/6/07 at 02:03 PM

its goin in a spire gtr, just thought i'd mention

gttman - 23/6/07 at 02:40 PM

That makes a difference to cost as the engine could be mounted in the same way as the bike and thus not need dry sumping (I am thinking busa).

ChrisGamlin - 23/6/07 at 02:44 PM

It may also not need a custom manifold because you could possibly use the bike's manifold.

buncefm - 23/6/07 at 05:05 PM

does anyone know if anyone has fitted a zzr1400 yet?

bpgoa - 23/6/07 at 06:17 PM

and that goes like stink..

yorkshire-engines - 23/6/07 at 08:06 PM

Hi a zx12 can be got from around £1200 to £1700 for a 06/7
i was at spire last week and he got 2 kits from me
this is a good chassie as well the motor works well with it

as far as zzr14,s go i have sold 6 now all to car builders in fact spire has one and will be fitting it soon
i have ridden the zzr14 and its awesome and i have ridden fast bikes all my life believe me its quick

JoelP - 23/6/07 at 08:27 PM

malc, how much power does the 07 zx12 produce? Im guessing it must be 200 is the zx10 is being quoted at 180?

Hellfire - 23/6/07 at 09:04 PM

Joel, the ZZR1400 replaced the ZX12R in 2006. There is no 2007 ZX12R

Phil

JoelP - 23/6/07 at 09:57 PM

i see! The extra 400cc didnt make much difference then did it, a mere 20bhp!

Hellfire - 23/6/07 at 10:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
i see! The extra 400cc didnt make much difference then did it, a mere 20bhp!


And about 30 lb-ft of torque.

Phil

Andy North - 24/6/07 at 06:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gttman
That makes a difference to cost as the engine could be mounted in the same way as the bike and thus not need dry sumping (I am thinking busa).


I am sure that when I looked at the red demo GTR the engine was mounted at 90 degrees to what it would have been in the bike, so you would get the oil surge issues

JoelP - 24/6/07 at 08:03 AM

id expect surge anyway myself, as the forces in braking will be similar to the cornering forces, over a g, so the oil still gets pulled one way or another. In the bike the engine leans so the oil doesnt feel the full lateral force.

Hellfire - 24/6/07 at 09:03 AM

The 12 has a massive belly (not flat) where the oil pick up pipe feeds from, IMO there isn't much chance of it going dry under normal use. Trackdays and racing may be a different matter...

Steve

gttman - 24/6/07 at 11:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Andy North
quote:
Originally posted by gttman
That makes a difference to cost as the engine could be mounted in the same way as the bike and thus not need dry sumping (I am thinking busa).


I am sure that when I looked at the red demo GTR the engine was mounted at 90 degrees to what it would have been in the bike, so you would get the oil surge issues


your definately right.

It was more of a general statement that the fact that its a midi could make a difference to the engine cost, and what mods are needed to fit it.

Omni - 25/6/07 at 09:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by yorkshire-engines
Hi a zx12 can be got from around £1200 to £1700 for a 06/7
i was at spire last week and he got 2 kits from me
this is a good chassie as well the motor works well with it

as far as zzr14,s go i have sold 6 now all to car builders in fact spire has one and will be fitting it soon
i have ridden the zzr14 and its awesome and i have ridden fast bikes all my life believe me its quick


Hi,

So how much are you doing R1 complete engine packages for?

Thanks,

Omni

JoelP - 25/6/07 at 09:52 AM

heres some past prices, you can dig deeper by clicking the find button under malcs posts, to dig out old posts.

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=65411

Omni - 25/6/07 at 11:20 AM

Cheers JoelP. I have also given him a quick call to see what he has in

O

adithorp - 25/6/07 at 11:35 AM

I can recommend Malc. Great service with the '06 R1 I had off him last year and he's been loads of help with questions and stuff since then.

Adrian

buncefm - 25/6/07 at 05:29 PM

malc, what do you get with the engine kits?