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At the end of a very long day I just got the news that my car has dies at Daytuner. I expected nothing else with the shitty luck I have had so far, I
now have a further strip down and analysis fee to fund. I expect the bill to be substantial. Therefore I will be most likely putting this car up for
sale, it will be sold without or with a siezed engine and will have a host of goodies that are on the car. I will be making a comprensive list of
components and parts fitted. Best offers please, car currently at Daytuner if you want to view it.
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im very sad to here that your engine went pop its not nice and i wish you the best of luck with it hope you sort it out good luck
Gutted for you!!
I light of the amount of money spent, owed, I cannot see anyway of fixing it, I will sell as spares.
BEST OFFERS anyone, loads of specialist kit fitted, quad core Rad, Digidash, Oil Accusump etc, please someone make a sensible offer...
Need money for a strong rope
stick with it! The guys there are bound to offer assistance.
Sorry to hear that. Chin up and get it rebuilt you will only regret selling it.
Good God Nick! Really sorry to hear your bad news. Is another engine totally out of the question?
so sorry for you, that is not good news.
hope it all works out through.
stuart
gutted mate! Any idea why it went pop?
have you been running this engine very long? has it been driving on the road ok?
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Originally posted by sucksqueezebangblow
Good God Nick! Really sorry to hear your bad news. Is another engine totally out of the question?
why would the mounts cause such a problem, how high did they rev it
Surly this is not the end. Pick up a cheaper compatable engine. You will be gutted to see it go.
Really feeling for you. Try and put a smile on, life is always a battle and kit cars are always stressful.
Hug it out man, hug it out!
Sorry to hear that... kit ownership can be a complete twunt sometimes!
Give it a few days for the smoke to settle and you will think clearer no matter what your decision it will be better made when your not in shock.
Gutted for you!!
Such a nightmare.
I think I'm on engine number 5, but then at a maximum of £250 a pop, I can afford to treat them as consumables.
As said, give it a few days and let the emotion die down a bit, find out what happened and make some decisions from there.
Meantime, it's the weekend, so beer, football, F1, beer.
Mike
im so upset with the whole episode to be honest. I owe money to loads of people, all of which are very understanding 
I have no money to buy nuts and bolts now nevermind a new engine.
as long as i walk away from this with no debt then thats ok
If you give people some idea of how much you want for it, you might get more interest and sell it quicker (if that's really what you
want)...........
Phil
It will make it easier if you give a ball park figure, is the car SVA's IVA'd etc
What a nightmare, sorry to hear that mate best of luck with what ever you decide try and find a way to complete the car...these problems will all be something you talk about down the pub when completed (well I keep telling myself that)
That's absolutely heart-breaking.
Gutted for you m8.
I know the feeling when you own money. I was on overdraft for quite sometime and was so relieved when i payed up everything.
I would suggest not to sell as well. Just spend some time away from it and things will get clear. It is a gorgeous car and you will regret it even
more when you sell it.
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Mate, feel your pain mate, really do, whats daytuner said, have they any insurance against this sort of thing? I know when I went to boggs insurance
wasn't even mentioned so they probably don't usually insure against accidental damage. Surely worth an ask if you haven't already.
Take care mate, hope you get it sold if thats what you have decided to do.
Regards
Rich
How about, selling some of it's expensive goodies, and get some cheaper ones so you can fix it?
I mean, You could get a good price for the alloys, and you could buy some cheaper ones to fit and put some money in the pocket
Where did you get the engine? Who designed the mounts?
if it was me i would park in garage and forget about it for a month and watch the footy then and only then decide what to do with the car.
we all feel your pain as we all been there at some point
Don't think its a good idea to sell it. How much you want for it? Can't daytuner help pay towards repairing? And did you put the wrong mounts on?
if you are selling bits and pieces, can i ask what digi dash is in it please
I think the comments relying to engine mounts mean they are set up for his current engine in other words it wouldn't be a straight swap to say
r1, blade etc, not that the mounts are wrong for his current engine.
As above mate, keep your chin up, forget about it for the weekend and let the dust settle before you make any rash decisions.
Worse case - stick a kidney on eBay!!!!
I feel your pain too, gutted for you. As said let the dust settle before you make any decission m8
How the hell have they killed the engine?
Surely while it was in their care, if they was monitoring how they should have during the session, it should never have gone bang.
If the engine was ropey, then they should have stopped there and then.
What kind of untrained chimps are they when they can't spot a occuring engine fault while fully monitoring it during a rolling road session.
I think I will steer well clear of them, when I'm looking for rolling road set up on my projects!!
I would be thinking along the same lines as fha772. I think any tuner worth their salt would notice an occuring fault before any serious damage was
caused. Surely before any work can be undertaken there are tests which should be done before hand.
I did see a video of a R1 engine throwing a conrod though. It went without warning whilst reving hard.
Anyway, take your time before you make a decision. If you sell it now, by this time next year you could be regretting it.
Normally you sign a disclaimer before going on a rolling road. where did you get the motor from? if its gone bang the first time it was revved
under load then there was a problem with the engine when you bought it. If its from a damaged bike chances are its run when its on its side etc which
isn't ideal.
Take a step back, don't sell anything yet(except the seats!). Wait 2 weeks, don't watch the footy as its for girls and they'll
only loose anyway.
I'd be mighty pissed off if a RR operator rang me to tell me my engine had "died". Have they any mechanical sympathy? What where they
doing?
I also wonder whether selling off the expensive bits is an option. At least enough so you can mothball it until you've built up some enthusiasm
again.....
It's easy to sit here and offer free advice but surely your car (and we know it's one nice machine!) is worth far more complete and working
than as a pile of bits. You will get a queue of people offering average bids for your toys but then you are going to be left with a big chunk that
you may have to practically give away
chin up. at some point all of us go through this kind of stuff.
leave alone for a week, then you need to sit down and think really hard about the money apsect and decide to cut your losses as best you can - it may
even be worthwile fitting a cheapish engine to sell as a runner.
ofcourse it is guttring to see all your time and effort go but it is not the worst thing in the world.
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Originally posted by fha772
How the hell have they killed the engine?
Surely while it was in their care, if they was monitoring how they should have during the session, it should never have gone bang.
If the engine was ropey, then they should have stopped there and then.
What kind of untrained chimps are they when they can't spot a occuring engine fault while fully monitoring it during a rolling road session.
I think I will steer well clear of them, when I'm looking for rolling road set up on my projects!!
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Originally posted by daviep
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Originally posted by fha772
How the hell have they killed the engine?
Surely while it was in their care, if they was monitoring how they should have during the session, it should never have gone bang.
If the engine was ropey, then they should have stopped there and then.
What kind of untrained chimps are they when they can't spot a occuring engine fault while fully monitoring it during a rolling road session.
I think I will steer well clear of them, when I'm looking for rolling road set up on my projects!!
Are you in any way qualified to offer such an opinion?
Have you ever seen an engine on a dyno?
Davie
you entrust your car to them so it shouldn't be about whether we know about dynos or not.
That's what the dials and gizmos are for.
I'd be looking for recompense.................
to call damian an un-trained chimp is rediculous! he is a top man and really really knows his stuff! it could have been a number of things which caused the engine to fail?
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Originally posted by fha772
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Originally posted by daviep
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Originally posted by fha772
How the hell have they killed the engine?
Surely while it was in their care, if they was monitoring how they should have during the session, it should never have gone bang.
If the engine was ropey, then they should have stopped there and then.
What kind of untrained chimps are they when they can't spot a occuring engine fault while fully monitoring it during a rolling road session.
I think I will steer well clear of them, when I'm looking for rolling road set up on my projects!!
Are you in any way qualified to offer such an opinion?
Have you ever seen an engine on a dyno?
Davie
Only the odd 1 or 2, lets see...
486bhp twin turbo 535i BMW,
378bhp 13B Turbo II Mazda RX3,
573bhp Mercedes 560SEC,
346bhp Turbo'd RV8 MGB GT,
654bhp 427 supercharged 1965 Ford Mustang,
Twin turbo 280GE Mercedes G-Wagen(this took 2 days on the rollers to get right),
That's just my old projects, i could go onto my dad's projects that i've worked on,
2 V12 Jags, Bentley Turbo R, 6 Mini's, etc...
I've been on the rollers with all of these(and a few more too) over the past 19 years, i've been to some very good rolling roads, and i've been to some and had a bad feeling and left.
Just because a garage can afford a rolling road cell, doesn't mean they know how to use it properly.
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Originally posted by daniel mason
to call damian an un-trained chimp is rediculous! he is a top man and really really knows his stuff! it could have been a number of things which caused the engine to fail?
my last car was there and he did a great job with it. 133 BHP from 5jj R1. this thread is getting crazy with people making comments!
lets wait for o/p to come back and give some more info before we make any more allegations,its someones buisiness we are commenting on here!
and for the record i will be taking my next car to daytuner
I feel for you, but sh*t happens. Just put it away for bit and then think about what you want/need to do with the car but don't rush into anything until you've had chance to get your head straight.
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Originally posted by Hellfire
If you give people some idea of how much you want for it, you might get more interest and sell it quicker (if that's really what you want)...........
Phil
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Originally posted by eddie99
Don't think its a good idea to sell it. How much you want for it? Can't daytuner help pay towards repairing? And did you put the wrong mounts on?
I love that enthusiasm, but a repair at £1000, s/h engine at £2200 and maybe £4K for a new one, no way, I will get another bike when I have the money, Life sucks, I just have to suck it up
I cannot honestly blame anyone really?
I think at 9000RPM it just seized, no warning, who knows what it is, sounds to me like oil stavation. I know one thing, I never EVER had a problem
with a bike engine in a bike, I think putting a bike engine in a car now is a really bad idea, lesson learnt, back to bikes I think. Maybe when I
have some bloody money again... Car for sale in FOR SALE section
Are you in any way qualified to offer such an opinion?
Have you ever seen an engine on a dyno?
Davie
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Originally posted by daniel mason
to call damian an un-trained chimp is rediculous! he is a top man and really really knows his stuff! it could have been a number of things which caused the engine to fail?
That's fair enough, i'm just surprised that it went bang, if everything was fine with the engine prior to the session. Unless it was a major mechanical failure/breakage, like a conrod going.
Do you know the history of the engine? what makes you think it was the accusump?
Dear all builders,
This whole episode started with my friend who orginally owned the car being murdered in 2008, I took this project on not knowing really anything about
it, apart from loving the colour and knowing that the engine was the same one fitted to the Campagna T-Rex trike I had been out in that year, I knew
the performance was blistering and at the time of my friends death I was on with building a trike. I took this project on knowing it would be tough,
I built it up mainly on my own, I spoke to Accusump in the USA with regard to filling it up and setting up the engine for its first run, I have had
the engine running fine, but only at low revs and only for maybe 5 mins at a time.
I CANNOT VERIFY THE STATE OF THIS ENGINE BEFORE MY FRIEND DIED
I do NOT hold Daytuner responsible for anything that happened to my car on the 11th.... Better it happen on a Rolling Road than the real road one
member said, yes how very true that is, I cannot imagine what would happen at 150MPH locking the back wheels? Careless comments hurt people and
businesses.
The guy who owns Daytuner is a Biker first and now tunes cars, bikes whatever you need rolling roading anyway.
He is the top of his game, his knowledge can save your life.
It comes down to this, The car died at 9000rpm, nobody was hurt, I took it in the walet, my pain is I have to sell a car as spares. Money to repair
is not an option.
The last 2 years have been the most stressful times I have ever had, from my friend being killed to building the car in his memory to stripping it
down to get bits fitted to pass IVA, rebuilding and seeing the light at the end of the tunnel to instant death of my engine yesterday.
Game Over, back to bikes for me, something that is fast, reliable and also fun.
CASE CLOSED
Nick
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I'm really sorry to hear it's eneded this way for you but it sounds like you did your best.
Enjoy whatever you decide to do!
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Originally posted by The Venom Project I don't hold him responsible, I think he knows his shit, I would never blame him, I feel the FUCKING ACCUSUMP is the cause of this FUCK UP...
Sorry to hear about your situation... but glad to hear you've got a buyer!
As for 'who' or 'what' is to blame... who knows!? The only comment I'll pass is that Kawasaki built that particular engine
to go in a ZZR1400 frame and deal with ZZR1400 loads.
Good luck with your next project!
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Originally posted by Davey D
have you been running this engine very long? has it been driving on the road ok?
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do NOT hold Daytuner responsible for anything that happened to my car on the 11th.... Better it happen on a Rolling Road than the real road one member said, yes how very true that is, I cannot imagine what would happen at 150MPH locking the back wheels?
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Originally posted by Krismc
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do NOT hold Daytuner responsible for anything that happened to my car on the 11th.... Better it happen on a Rolling Road than the real road one member said, yes how very true that is, I cannot imagine what would happen at 150MPH locking the back wheels?
My rear wheels locked at 65mph and that was bloody dangerous so I agree you are better it went at garage oh and i hope day tuner aint responsible as my car is there now
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Originally posted by The Venom Project
I'm just trying to move on now and forget about the thousands of pounds I have wasted on this car.