Has anyone been sad enopugh to put together a list of bits needed to be bought down to the last little bit to give me an idea of total price of a build?

I've seen various figures mentioned but unless they are quantified with a build spec then they mean nothing.

All i really know so far is the kit price and the engine prices(busa) but what else do i get for my money.

If noone has such a list has anyone got a comprehensive list of bit's i'll need outside of the initial kit.

What make kit are you thinking of?

I cant give could a list but i am compiling one for my MNR build which is just starting. A figure that is banded about is arround £6k for a bec if you can pick up a few bargins but i would have thought it would be a fair amount more for a busa

I was looking for something similar a month or two back but no-one seems to have one. However, as I go along I'm putting every single nut, bolt and thingy-ma-jig onto a spreadsheet so I can upset myself when I'm done.

Of course depends largely on what kit you're going for.

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you don't want to know, ignorance is bliss especially with cars

Looking to build a Bog standard vortx as a starting point but depending on how things go i may swap the Busa lump for a GSXR1000 lump and go for a RT with the money saved

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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
you don't want to know, ignorance is bliss especially with cars

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Write it down!!!??? are you MAD! what if SWMBO found it??!!!???!!!???!!!??!!



I'm off for a lie down at the thought of it!

i told mrs graememk the indy cost around £3k lol

real money and bits i've spent since finishing £6k total i think i built it for around £5

cheers guys.

If anyone has a list and wants to keep it private then i accept emails to chunkytfg@hotmail.com

What would happen to the budget if i was chasing an age related plate?

Right lads, listen up.
Decide on the budget (approx.) - tell SWMBO.
Then take her to Amsterdam and whilst there buy her a diamond something or other (not that expensive if you play your cards right).
In the future when she asks how much it's all cost you quote her an airy-fairy figure but add that the diamond whatever came out of your budget.
It's worked for me for the last few years!
As to actual cost - depends on how locost you want it be and how much time you are prepared to spend acquiring parts rather than ordering them from the likes of Ral Des.
£5k sounds about right.
Cheers, Pewe

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I have to admit that I've suffered a bit of the Magpie syndrome. Wheels, tyres and brakes (all new bits) took a big chunk and buying my donor bits off the shelf probably cost a bit over the odds. Diff, shafts etc and the front uprights are the only used bits I've got and I reckon I'm at about £7.5k now and probably got another £700 or so to finish.

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I have to admit that I've suffered a bit of the Magpie syndrome. Wheels, tyres and brakes (all new bits) took a big chunk and buying my donor bits off the shelf probably cost a bit over the odds. Diff, shafts etc and the front uprights are the only used bits I've got and I reckon I'm at about £7.5k now and probably got another £700 or so to finish.

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Jeez - I got rid of most of my receipts because the number was getting so scary.

I will work it out at some point but I must be approaching £9-10K!

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Originally posted by Richard Quinn
I have to admit that I've suffered a bit of the Magpie syndrome. Wheels, tyres and brakes (all new bits) took a big chunk and buying my donor bits off the shelf probably cost a bit over the odds. Diff, shafts etc and the front uprights are the only used bits I've got and I reckon I'm at about £7.5k now and probably got another £700 or so to finish.

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Yeah it’s those evil catalogues that come through the door, do what I do BIN THEM!

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If anyone has a list and wants to keep it private then i accept emails to chunkytfg@hotmail.com

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Like i've said previously I currently race motorcycles and i rekon a year of that is still more than this ere car building lark.

And I too have not told my missus how much it all costs for fear of a horrible death by DIY

Some good points here....

Do i have to consider our lasses eternity ring in my budget or even renovating my entire house before I could start which was the best part of £30k!! Looks like all considering the permission costs about three times more than the car!!!!

I am planning a Vortx RT inboard - with R1 though which should be somewhat cheaper - and I have made a calculation. I don't think anything much under 10k is realistic. As Chris said, you will end up getting a few shiny pieces here and there.
But I sent you a list I have received from Joao and modified a little. I also made my calculations based on this list, but obviously edited it along the way.

i kept a full list of everything i spent building the first indy.

i spent £6.5k

that was for a 1.6 pinto indy from a sierra that cost £100. wheels cost less than £500, gauges were about £350 and lights front and back were about £260 because i got the LED rears and decent headlights from svc.

it's since got a full cage and bike carbs so they're not included in the 6.5k

you probably can build for less, but it will be pretty basic. that...or you can not account for all the costs and come up with whatever number you want.
tom

cheers for that gergely. Much appreciated.

One of the biggest things i'm finding is the manufacturers dont tend to list bolt by bolt what is needed extra so you by a kit and think okay so i need this and this to finish it only to find you need all that plus 2 grands worth of bits and peices

Nuts and bolts - Now there's an issue in itself! Obviously, they're not that cheap to start with but there is that annoying thing of not being able to come up with a list of every single fastener that you will need and the one that you didn't get this time around is the one that will now hold you up so you have to order it and pay the extortionate P&P for a one-off.
I reckon P&P is actually a significant amount of my budget!!

check out our website under modules ( also starter kits ) both list every part you get including every fixing you need ( we are in the middle of updating at the moment so not all prices etc are 100% correct )
each time you buy a part from us for instance seats ( mounting bosses bolts etc are included )

cheers

marc

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check out our website under modules ( also starter kits ) both list every part you get including every fixing you need ( we are in the middle of updating at the moment so not all prices etc are 100% correct )
each time you buy a part from us for instance seats ( mounting bosses bolts etc are included )

cheers

marc

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Nuts and bolts - Now there's an issue in itself! Obviously, they're not that cheap to start with but there is that annoying thing of not being able to come up with a list of every single fastener that you will need and the one that you didn't get this time around is the one that will now hold you up so you have to order it and pay the extortionate P&P for a one-off.
I reckon P&P is actually a significant amount of my budget!!

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I religiously logged every single purchase in an Excel spreadsheet during my two year build and when everything was finished and registered I finally hit the 'calculate' button ......... then changed my trousers. I made the mistake of telling SWMBO too, so it doesn't look as though I will be building my next project unless I sell my present one first

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Cheers marc i had noticed the Module prices had been added. One thing though you appear to have removed the standard Vortx kit and replaced it with the MX5 doner kit. Does this mean it's no longer available?

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Cheers marc i had noticed the Module prices had been added. One thing though you appear to have removed the standard Vortx kit and replaced it with the MX5 doner kit. Does this mean it's no longer available?

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yep still available just havent managed to finish that part yet

cheers

marc

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can send you an xcel spreadsheet of the rt if you email me

cheers

marc

Marc you are giving me a lot of reasons to hate you (in a good way though) .....

I had just made up my mind about the Busa engine, only waiting to be given some leave and find flights to come visit you, and now you come and announce that you're tinkering with S2000 engined cars!!!!


Now I have to make my mind up all over again!!! Aaaarrrggghhh!!!!

the story behind the s2000 is as follows :-
we have a customer who liked our cars but was not 100% on having a bike engine, so was looking for a car engine, we initially looked at duratec route £5500 min for something which may acheive 200bhp, looked around at american v8s etc, and came up with s2000 using the gearbox ecu dash , and diff came in a lot less for more power ( and almost revs like a bike engine ) with it being jap its b
ound to be alot better in the reliability stakes, and a super charger kit is not too much either.
it just pained me to see someone spend £5000 on something that wouldnt have given him the power that they where after and would have been an inferior installation so had to find a solution

im so hooked on the idea that one of our next demos is s2000

marc

Ok you got me hooked too. So next questions are ...

1. What can I use out of the S2000 apart from the Engine and G'box? because I can arrange to buy a totalled S2000 straight from japan.

2. Does it need a dry sump? or shortened sump?

3. Is the gear lever nicely positioned, or akward? ( like the type 9 on a locost?)

4. Does it come with an European certificate of Conformity? (this is a trick question)

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Originally posted by pewe
Right lads, listen up.
Decide on the budget (approx.) - tell SWMBO.
Then take her to Amsterdam and whilst there buy her a diamond something or other (not that expensive if you play your cards right).
In the future when she asks how much it's all cost you quote her an airy-fairy figure but add that the diamond whatever came out of your budget.
It's worked for me for the last few years!
As to actual cost - depends on how locost you want it be and how much time you are prepared to spend acquiring parts rather than ordering them from the likes of Ral Des.
£5k sounds about right.
Cheers, Pewe

[Edited on 10/3/08 by pewe]

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