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MNR supplied Wiring loom
Davey D - 15/5/08 at 01:19 PM

Im getting the lighting sorted, as ive got all the wiring loom from the Bike done.

Im using the Bike ignition switch to power everythng on/off, so the plan is to use a relay in the Bike ignition wiring to switch the lighting loom on.

My question is: What do each of the wires switch?

i think there are 2x white/red, 1x white, and 1x brown

im assuming that it is designed for a 2x position ignition, brown being -ve , the 2x white powering 1 part, and the 1x white powering another?


marc n - 15/5/08 at 01:21 PM

can t tell you this second, but our wiring man is coming this evening / tomorrow so will ask him then for you

cheers

marc


Davey D - 15/5/08 at 01:26 PM

Thanks for that Marc

While i remember to ask - did you manage to get some shorter steering rack extensions made up, as its a bit of a bugger pushing the car around with so much toe out hehe


marc n - 15/5/08 at 01:27 PM

yep we have now got them back from the anodiser, can you send an email to chris as a reminder and we can send them off tomorrow morning so you will get them for the weekend

cheers

marc


bassett - 15/5/08 at 01:58 PM

I also need to know the same for later in the build, would you mind letting me know what you find out.
Cheers
Adam


Davey D - 19/5/08 at 08:39 AM

Marc - did you manage to find out the details of this?


marc n - 19/5/08 at 10:12 AM

he is here this afternoon again, i will ask him, i must admit i forgot last time he was here, have just written large note on desk

cheers

marc


Davey D - 19/5/08 at 10:31 AM

Bah! what are you like

im just the same though... ill note in my mind something that i must get done on a particular day... 2 mins later, and ive forgotten all about it... Im only 28.. what will i be like in another 30 years


Agriv8 - 19/5/08 at 11:04 AM

If I remember I will have a dig about under my dash as those are the sma coulors as mine

Regards

Agriv8

Ps Marc you about tomorow or thur Eve ?


marc n - 19/5/08 at 01:47 PM

quote:

Ps Marc you about tomorow or thur Eve ?



pretty much every night this week i will be here late

cheers

marc


Agriv8 - 20/5/08 at 05:45 PM

'ere you go

Brown = Power
White = Ign
White and red = Start

if you need anything further let me know

Regards

Agriv8

Mark might be over tomorow Eve

[Edited on 20/5/08 by Agriv8]


bassett - 20/5/08 at 06:44 PM

with a lucas ignition barell(4 in line pins) what should go to what?
cheers
Adam


Agriv8 - 20/5/08 at 08:06 PM

any chance of a photo or where it came from ( part number ect ) and I should be able to point you in the right direction.

Not seen 4 pins in line ( seen 3 of 4 pins arround the edge )

Regards

Agriv8


bassett - 20/5/08 at 08:51 PM

Its one MNR supplied, lucas switch 30608 has 4 pins at the back but split into two ie two connected to one another and has 2 positions. Also the end of that white and red wire thats going to the starter right?


Agriv8 - 21/5/08 at 07:14 AM

Ahh I see

So two 'pined pairs'

So you need to put brown ( battery feed ) to '1 of pairs' and white to the 'other' ( switched ignition ) this will give you ignition on So lights, indicators ect should work.

The switch looks someting like this

[img]http://www.tms-motorcycles.co.uk/store/products/images/large/271-1.jpg?0.280115[/img]

Just to add suspect you must be using a start button. To connect that you will need to make a cable to go from the pin thats paired with the one you have the white on.

The other side of your start switch then needs to go to the white red this is the feed to spin the starter motor up.

Ill mod that picture and it will make more sense I hope.

Ps No waranties that I have it right buy the way.

regards

Agriv8


Agriv8 - 21/5/08 at 07:39 AM

Somthing like this



Regards

Agriv8


Davey D - 21/5/08 at 11:28 AM

Excellent - thanks for that

I notice there is a white/red wire that goes into the engine bay for the starter, so i presume that that wire just goes back to the one in the ingnition... maybe via a relay? so i should be able to chop that bit out of the loom then.

More weight saving


bassett - 21/5/08 at 01:28 PM

Sorry to keep hijacking the thread DaveyD. Should i wire the brown and white as above(to ign barrel) the red/white to a start swich then to the ignition barrel and the other end to the starter. My 5pw has a +lead with relay and then goes to the battery but where should the red/white connect?
Adam


Agriv8 - 21/5/08 at 02:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Davey D
Excellent - thanks for that

I notice there is a white/red wire that goes into the engine bay for the starter, so i presume that that wire just goes back to the one in the ingnition... maybe via a relay? so i should be able to chop that bit out of the loom then.

More weight saving


In most car engine the relay is the 'starter selaniod' ( the little lump an the side of the main starter motor ) so on the bike one you need to connect the White and red to the relay that has the fat cable that runs to the starter motor motor.

Hope that make sense if not I'll try and cobble another picture together.

regards

AGRiv8


Agriv8 - 21/5/08 at 02:32 PM

Basset,

Ill try and have a llok at the 5pw wiring scematic tonight and get back to you.

regards

Agriv8


Davey D - 21/5/08 at 03:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
quote:
Originally posted by Davey D
Excellent - thanks for that

I notice there is a white/red wire that goes into the engine bay for the starter, so i presume that that wire just goes back to the one in the ingnition... maybe via a relay? so i should be able to chop that bit out of the loom then.

More weight saving


In most car engine the relay is the 'starter selaniod' ( the little lump an the side of the main starter motor ) so on the bike one you need to connect the White and red to the relay that has the fat cable that runs to the starter motor motor.

Hope that make sense if not I'll try and cobble another picture together.

regards

AGRiv8


The bike engine already starts and runs on its own original loom. im only using the MNR loom for the lighting, so the wiring to the starter in the MNR loom is redundant


bassett - 22/5/08 at 10:29 AM

Agriv8 that would be a great help cheers.
Adam


marc n - 22/5/08 at 07:35 PM

cheers iain

ive been so busy i forgot to ask the sparky
ive been late everynight working or delivering cars, im absoloutely knakered and im up at 5-30 for an sva

cheers

marc