I'm looking up convert my type 9 box from cable to hydraulic, and I want the easiest option! I see that retro ford sell a kit for doing this conversion, I was wondering if any one had used this kit and had any issues/ tips? From the look of the Slave cylinder on there pic on the website it looks like the bleed pipe pokes out where the release arm goes, does this affect bleeding the cylinder at all ? I thought it would have to be mounted in the 12 position so the bleed nipple is pointing upwards....if this is the case then the type 9 bellhousing does not allow this!.... I'm sure it must work otherwise they wouldn't sell it! Any advice from any one that's used this kit before?
The easiest way to convert cable type 9 to hydraulic would be to take the route used on the TVR S1 - S3 range where they had an external slave
cylinder mounted on a bracket fixed over the opening where the release arm comes out of the bell housing. I don't have my S3 anymore so
can't take a pic but you might find something in the Pistonheads TVR S Series forum.
If you don't get any where ping me a pm and I'll see if I can dig up something.
Jed
I bought the kit that rally design and burton sell
I got mine from rally design and they didnt say I needed a spacer..
got it all bolted (after having it modded as bleed pipe came off the bottom)
bolted it all in.. bleed it up..
pressed the pedal and the bearing popped off and I lost all the fluid
this photo was taken before the spacer was fitted...
top hose is bleed...
the other hose is feed from master cylinder
[Edited on 26/12/12 by gavin174]
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Originally posted by mcramsay
I'm looking up convert my type 9 box from cable to hydraulic, and I want the easiest option!
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Originally posted by Jed
The easiest way to convert cable type 9 to hydraulic would be to take the route used on the TVR S1 - S3 range where they had an external slave cylinder mounted on a bracket fixed over the opening where the release arm comes out of the bell housing. I don't have my S3 anymore so can't take a pic but you might find something in the Pistonheads TVR S Series forum.
If you don't get any where ping me a pm and I'll see if I can dig up something.
Jed
If you did a search then you would have found this to first linky and in my post
3rd one down there IS another linky that would have taken you to this a second or
original linky .
Hope these help
Oh and I had to modify the pedal slightly so that the pedal and push rod returned fully so that I didn't apparently ride the clutch and over heat
it/wear it out.
I used a Vauxhall slave cylinder (Vectra/Astra etc etc), and made an ally spacer to fit it into the type 9 (similar to the picture above).
They're self bleeding type cylinders so you only need the main pipe to the top of the cylinder, simples
I had no choice but to use hydraulic, there isn't enough clearance in the tunnel for the clutch arm, and the exhaust manifold covers the area
where the cable should run.
Ian
The reason I want to change is Is my pet hate with the car last year when it was on the road was the clutch cable, I want to greatly increase to reliability of the car, and it means one less cable that can snap and leave you stranded
This is bound to be the kiss of death but I have had a cable clutch in both my cars since 1988 and never had an issue. Current car has been on the road 20 years in February, still original cable. Has been used with road clutches and AP racing clutch. The one fact that kills most cables is when owners both them tight to the pedal rather than allowing the end to rotate on the bolt.
Oddified how did you know how big to make the spacer ? As looking at similar ideas if my tunnels too small for the clutch arm. Looking at astras or modeo slave cylinders myself, any pictures ?
there is a very good guide to this conversion on the cheap on the turbosport forum. it uses an external cylinder.
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Originally posted by samjc
Oddified how did you know how big to make the spacer ? As looking at similar ideas if my tunnels too small for the clutch arm. Looking at astras or modeo slave cylinders myself, any pictures ?
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Originally posted by Paul Turner
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Originally posted by mcramsay
I'm looking up convert my type 9 box from cable to hydraulic, and I want the easiest option!
Why?
Been running a cable clutch in my Type 2, Type E and Type 9 since 1988 and never had an issue and never felt the need to change. Know several people who changed to hydraulic thinking it would be smoother and more reliable and have since changed back to cable.
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Originally posted by Fatgadget
A hydraulic setup is much more versatile should for example the cable routing be non standard and or tortuous. Its also easy to change leverages by simply increasing or decreasing master and slave bore sizes.