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Silvertop flywheel onto a Blacktop?
dhutch - 31/12/12 at 10:48 PM

Struggling to find the answer using the search.

A friend is selling up the kit of parts he put together to build a kitcar having bought one already built. He has therefore what from his research is all the parts needed to build up a zetec onto a type9 and put it into a kitcar. And I have a CVH engined westfield that im considering re-engining. Only bind is I was planning on using a blacktop zetec.

So far I only have the inlet manifold (yay..) so another option would be to get on with it and just fit the silvertop, which was picked due to being pre95 and hence cat-free for iva, although as my car is registered and pre-sva smoketest only, maybe not an issue.


Thoughts on a postcard!


Daniel


loggyboy - 31/12/12 at 10:59 PM

Will fit fine, its a popular route to mate a blacktop to a type 9 using a silvertop (focus iirc) flywheel, early 1.8 mondeo clutch and a ct133 (capri) clutch bearing.


dhutch - 31/12/12 at 11:39 PM

Excellent, thats what we wanted to here! I new that silvertop flywheels had been used on blacktops but didnt know if it was a straight swap or if there was shimming/clutch implications within that.

I understand the flywheel is from a 1800 silvertop out of an escort.


Daniel


dhutch - 31/12/12 at 11:42 PM

I dont suppose the clutch im using with the CVH would work with the Zetec install? No point in saving it if there not the same, but if they are its always worked well for me and feels stiff enough I expect its an up rated unit.


Daniel


chillis - 1/1/13 at 11:24 AM

Nope the rwd cvh clutch is the same as a pinto clutch. Rwd and fwd clutches use different bolt hole patterns for the clutch to prevent mix up on the build line.

[Edited on 1/1/13 by chillis]


coozer - 1/1/13 at 01:34 PM

As mentioned above a 1.8 flywheel with Mk1 Mondeo clutch and cct133 (Capri) release bearing.

This setup fits ALL zetecs right up to the last St170 with type 9 gearbox.


dhutch - 1/1/13 at 03:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chillis
Nope the rwd cvh clutch is the same as a pinto clutch. Rwd and fwd clutches use different bolt hole patterns for the clutch to prevent mix up on the build line.
Sounds good, although to add to the complication, I believe my car currently has a fwd cvh flywheel on it, mated to the type 9 with the ford aluminum bell housing. Or atleast, its the best reason anyones given me for why no starter motor I try will mesh properly.

I'll get the clutch that goes with the flywheel!


Daniel


filemon - 19/2/13 at 10:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by coozer
As mentioned above a 1.8 flywheel with Mk1 Mondeo clutch and cct133 (Capri) release bearing.

This setup fits ALL zetecs right up to the last St170 with type 9 gearbox.


Hello,

Would every MK1 1.8/1.6 clutch fit 1.8 flywheel?
I got flywheel from 1.8 engine (FINIS- 1034879, eng.part number 928M-6K390-AD). According to Ford ECAT it comes from 1.8 Mondeo and also 1.8 Focus MK1. It is 8,8kg.
And now I want to buy complete cluth and got choice of 3 different part numbers:
LUK 622 2050 09
LUK 622 1190 00
LUK 622 1191 00
Which one to choose, or maybe it doesn't matter and I can pick up which ever I want?
I susspect that the clutches are identicall, but ther difference is in release bearing which comes in kit.
Can anyone confirm?

[Edited on 19/2/13 by filemon]


whitestu - 19/2/13 at 12:26 PM

If you fit a trigger wheel to the front pulley you should be able to use the CVH flywheel, clutch and release bearing.

I used a 1.8cvh fly and clutch kit on a Blacktop as I already had them.

Stu


filemon - 19/2/13 at 10:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
If you fit a trigger wheel to the front pulley you should be able to use the CVH flywheel, clutch and release bearing.

I used a 1.8cvh fly and clutch kit on a Blacktop as I already had them.

Stu


My question was only about how to choose clutch kit. I already got flywheel and CT133 release bearing. Only need to know if there are any differences in those clutches.