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disco_biscuit

posted on 2/5/09 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
I'll be putting my name down for one as soon as possible, don't mind field testing one

so my Quaife one will be for sale.

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eccsmk

posted on 2/5/09 at 03:18 PM Reply With Quote
im interested in one for my indy
i have a gravel drive which slopes uphill away from the garage.








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Jason Fletcher

posted on 4/5/09 at 05:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marc n
as far as im aware all the units available at present constantly drive a chain when going forwards meaning 4 driven bearings as opposed to our two and use drive dogs ( as per a gearbox when going forward ) hence the backlash

cheers

marc


Not quite, if you are referring to Quaife as the "popular" unit then it only has three bearings and does not have a chain. There is however massive drag from the bearing and seals. I know the Quaife has one bearing on one flange shaft and two on the other. My problem is that I have the short prop which is at a 3 deg via a cush drive connected to the one with a single bearing so there’s always a side load and I'm not convinced it will last.

I spoke to Andy Bates and he told me about this unit. The Quaife is the only thing I would change on my car if there was a better alternative available and as I had not bought anything else at the show I was ready to buy one there and then if it looked as good as Andy said it was.

So, I asked today how many bearings your unit had and the guy refused to tell me as if it was a matter of national security which was fine but it was his arrogance and manner he spoke to me that really pi$$ed me off. Some people should stay in the workshop.

If your unit is as good as it looks and feels then as far I am concerned the others may as well take them out of production now because they won't sell any.

I would still like to buy one assuming the mounting holes are the same as the quaife and you think the side load that is put on at 3 deg by the cush drive won't harm it.

Jason

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Agriv8

posted on 4/5/09 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
Jason Sorry about you experience.

The honest answer to your question is 2 VERY EXPENSIVE bearings ( the most expensive part of the unit infact )

As for being able to run 3deg ? We would need to run that past the designer to run some calcs what sort of BHP are you putting through it ?

Not condoning the remark but until MNR have tried to get the patent side of things tied down there are only 3 people that know how it works ( I arnt one by the way ) but do know a few bits and bobs.

edit to add I arnt the one who passed the coment I suspect I know who was and will have a chat to Marc and Chris to avoid a repeat of the experice you encountered.

regards

Iain

[Edited on 4/5/09 by Agriv8]

[Edited on 4/5/09 by Agriv8]





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Jason Fletcher

posted on 5/5/09 at 08:09 AM Reply With Quote
Iain

If they are applying for patents then fair enough, I would not want anyone knowing about it either but theres a right and wrong way to speak to someone and tell them that.

I am putting 200bhp and 100lbf torque (k8 Busa) through my Quaife. I am not sure what sort of side load would be put on the bearing with the cush trying to straighten a 3 deg prop.

thanks for your input

regards
Jason

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skidude88

posted on 5/5/09 at 01:20 PM Reply With Quote
Arrogance!

Unfortunately, a few of us also walked away feeling the guy was a bit arrogant (to say the least!) and a bit put off

Exhibiting something new, punters are gonna ask questions before shelling out £500 on something tested on a bench. Especially when it has the potential of stopping us in our forward tracks if it goes belly up.

The nature of owners at a show is - "Oh shiny new things..." and then be inquisitive as to how it works,

(If it's on sale, there's nothing to stop the "competition" buying one and having a butchers anyway!)

That aside......

Congrats on the product - if its as good as is being said-felt!!

Seriously tempted

If someone could perhaps answer the following queries....

What warranty would come with this - as I've just mentioned - its early days and not exactly tried and tested on the road over any mileage-time period.

Also - would anyone have a ball part figure as to 2 piece propshafts?

It might be beneficial for MNR to have someone in the wings...that's if they don't already (I've not personally dealt with you before?)

Just a thought....Would there perhaps be a part exchange system for those of us with a 1 piece (length) shaft?

Good luck


James.





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Steve Hignett

posted on 5/5/09 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
I heard the exact same thing off at least three other people and experienced quite a bit of the same myself outside whilst AB was repairing the wingstay.

I have to admit it wasn't directed at me, so I didn't pass comment, and I'm glad I didn't because it doesn't reflect Marc's personality at all. But very annoying to be honest...






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Jason Fletcher

posted on 10/5/09 at 09:38 AM Reply With Quote
Any more news on this yet? I have 500 quid burning a hole in my pocket if this reverse unit will be ok for my installation.

Jason


[Edited on 10/5/09 by Jason Fletcher]

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Agriv8

posted on 11/5/09 at 07:09 PM Reply With Quote
sorry jason thought I had posted a reply the other day but it has disapeared.

Anyway the development unit (the one off the stand ) is back on the red car off the stand and flying arround yorkshire as I type.

After destruction testing I belive it is going back to check tolerances and for wear. After this we will be able to answer your questions

kind regards

Agriv8





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Jason Fletcher

posted on 13/5/09 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
cheers

Jason

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