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Author: Subject: more progress and rear exhaust design! following on
daniel mason

posted on 22/1/11 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
more progress and rear exhaust design! following on

following on from my rear exhaust thread, please take a look in my blog and look at my design idea. i think am going to go ahead with it,but wanted some opinions first. i know i need some heat shields making, and some mods to bodywork to prevent damage from the heat!
blog underneath!






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Dangle_kt

posted on 22/1/11 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
is that the fuel tank?

Its different, i'll give you that!

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mistergrumpy

posted on 22/1/11 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
I can't get orientated with the first 2 pictures. Am I right in thinking the exhaust comes up through the floor behind the drivers seat and then through the rear bulkhead panel?
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Thinking about it

posted on 22/1/11 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
I can't get orientated with the first 2 pictures. Am I right in thinking the exhaust comes up through the floor behind the drivers seat and then through the rear bulkhead panel?


Then up over the fuel tank

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daniel mason

posted on 22/1/11 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
thats right. i wanted the silencer as far away from my ear as possible, and as the bore is 63mm there is no room for it anywhere else! i put a thread regarding exhaust gasses and safety yesterday and the general outcome was go for it. so i am!






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daniel mason

posted on 22/1/11 at 09:59 PM Reply With Quote
something like this







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mistergrumpy

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
Yep. Nowt wrong with being different It may get a bit warm behind you though!
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daniel mason

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
i know! heat wrap and a heatshield there too!






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tomgregory2000

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
I fail to see why people are getting woried about an exhaust being close to a fuel tank.

Have a look under most tintops and the exhaust is rather close to the fuel tank

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se7en

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:11 PM Reply With Quote
Daniel on a different item.

Are your Fog and Reverse lights mounted on the right sides?

AFAIA the Fog should be on the off-side.

Tom

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daniel mason

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:18 PM Reply With Quote
thats a questioni dont even know the answer too! ^^^
i thought they needed a minimum of 100mm seperation from rear cluster. but not sure if lights sould be on certain side? can anyone clarify this point?
also the pipe is a good 6" away from tank it this situation. a lot further away than it was in the donor s2000

[Edited on 22/1/11 by daniel mason]






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MakeEverything

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:33 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by tomgregory2000
I fail to see why people are getting woried about an exhaust being close to a fuel tank.

Have a look under most tintops and the exhaust is rather close to the fuel tank


Ditto. I think its a pointless worry. If the fuel lines were tied to the exhaust, id say yes but theyre not.

Good luck anyway. I like things different.





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Richard.

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daniel mason

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:40 PM Reply With Quote
thanks richard. your build is looking good by the way!






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MakeEverything

posted on 22/1/11 at 10:50 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by daniel mason
thanks richard. your build is looking good by the way!


thanks! I didnt think anyone was reading it! I havent had any critiques from L0rd for a while either!!





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StrikerChris

posted on 22/1/11 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
If i remember right the fog light can be anywhere from dead centre to anywhere towards the offside,then all the carp, so far from your other lights etc.dont see a problem with the exhaust either,except you getting hot,alu conducts heat super quick so the heatshields will soon get as hot as the exhaust remember!loudest thing in my car is not the exhaust but the wind,both straight down my ear,and from most passengers arse's tho.
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se7en

posted on 22/1/11 at 11:40 PM Reply With Quote
Daniel

The information about the Fog Lamp can be found in section 28 of the IVA Manual

"At least one must be on centre line or to offside of vehicle (Min separation distance from stop lamp 100mm)"

Tom

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daniel mason

posted on 23/1/11 at 11:20 AM Reply With Quote
I can't imagine the wind being as loud as the buddyclub mate, and the wind isn't too bad in the Mnr. The ally heatshield will not be touching the exhaust anywhere and I will lag the exhaust in heat wrap and insulate the ally with that heat proof sheet!






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MakeEverything

posted on 23/1/11 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
Any progress Dan? Im really interested to see the finished prototype and hear it running.





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RichardK

posted on 23/1/11 at 10:19 PM Reply With Quote
Ok, I'm up for being different but to be honest I don't like it, unless I looking at it in some way incorrectly.



So is that the exhaust exit above the rear arch?

Usually exhausts are pointing out and down towards the road/kerb not at toddlers heads and pushchair height.

If its a track car then cool If a road car then I'm not a fan. Soz mate.

Cheers

Rich





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daniel mason

posted on 23/1/11 at 10:35 PM Reply With Quote
it is an angled pipe mate and does point down. although not as much as a standsrd kit type silencer. no progress today but next week i will hopefully have it cut to correct length ready for welding!






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adithorp

posted on 23/1/11 at 10:38 PM Reply With Quote
Couple of comments...

Looks like you're bringing it up through the floor? Won't that mean it's very close to the ground?

Rear fog needs to be moved to the other side as others have said. The lamp also needs to be mounted so the lens is vertical (not just close to). Don't take this the wrong way but... I'd suggest that reading the relevant bits of the manual before bolting parts on, can save a lot of "redoing" and retest fees later.





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RichardK

posted on 23/1/11 at 10:38 PM Reply With Quote
If it turns the gases to the rear then cool but still slightly concerned about the height of the gases.

Cheers

R

[Edited on 23/1/11 by RichardK]





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MakeEverything

posted on 23/1/11 at 10:59 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
If it turns the gases to the rear then cool but still slightly concerned about the height of the gases.

Cheers

R

[Edited on 23/1/11 by RichardK]


Its no worse than some buses ive seen.





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Richard.

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daniel mason

posted on 23/1/11 at 11:05 PM Reply With Quote
i'll switch the fog and reverse light around in the week. and try to get it as close to vertical as possible.






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Davey D

posted on 24/1/11 at 10:34 AM Reply With Quote
Got to say i really dont like the look of the exhaust coming out like that. Once the car is up and running the whole area around the arches is going to look a dirty sooty mess with all the exhaust gasses blowing out onto them
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