Winston Todge
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 11:46 AM |
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Top rear wishbone mounting space!?
Hey all just as the title really...
I'm fitting the rear end together and have come a little unstuck with the rear wishbones. The top rearmost mount seems to run very close to a
vertical chassis tube.
Do people use a shallower nyloc and a shorter bolt?
Ta,
Chris.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 12:05 PM |
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Yes a shorter Nylock nut is required the bolt may need to be checked for length as well .
I assume this is the top rear most bolt that in getting close to the bar that the fuel tank sits close to.
reagrds
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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smart51
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 07:19 PM |
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Is that the one where MNR supply crushed full nuts rather than nylocs. They were a bit of a pain to fit but not as much as the rear uprights.
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 07:32 PM |
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Thanks for that guys.
Can't seem to find any crushed nuts for this purpose though!?
Also my top wishbone seems to be very tight on the two inner wishbone brackets. Has anyone else found this? The brackets seem a little too widely
spaced for the spacing of the wishbone...
Any comments people?
Chris.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 08:23 PM |
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Yep they are tight. How many mm do you recon you need ?
couple of things to make shure are the brackets you are locting the arms into 'Square' to the chassis ? .
Are your rubber bushes fully inserted ?
the edge of the bush should mate with the tube vitually no gap. check for over zealous powder coating ?
Regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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G.Man
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 09:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Winston Todge
Thanks for that guys.
Can't seem to find any crushed nuts for this purpose though!?
Also my top wishbone seems to be very tight on the two inner wishbone brackets. Has anyone else found this? The brackets seem a little too widely
spaced for the spacing of the wishbone...
Any comments people?
Chris.
Just tolerance on the wishbones, but if they are way out, marc did have some wishbones that were made wrong, but they were RT+ I believe...
He had to redo mine and repair his jigs which someone screwed...
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 09:33 PM |
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Again great points Ian.
All things you suggested I've had a squizz at. The slight worry is that without any bushes in place the wishbone fits into the two brackets but
only has a mil between the inner wishbone mounting face and the bracket.
Also both top rear bones seem to have a slight toe in to them. Would this have an affect? Is this normal?
My wishbones are slightly different as they have the stiffening brace that runs across diagonally also.
Any more ideas?
Chris.
P.S. I could probably fit them in but it would be very tight. Would this have any adverse affects?
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 09:35 PM |
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They may have been the same Marc?
What were the problems with the incorrectly made ones?
Ta,
Chris.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 09:53 PM |
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Right,
jigs for RT + and RT are different ( i think )
at MNR tommorow as we are prepping up for the show ( also need to get a couple of fine tunnung jobs sorted on the v8 ) will have a word with mark and
get back to you.
REgards agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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chockymonster
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 10:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
at MNR tommorow as we are prepping up for the show
Can you remind him to take my picture for me (just in case he's too busy and forgets  )
[Edited on 26/4/06 by chockymonster]
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G.Man
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 05:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Winston Todge
They may have been the same Marc?
What were the problems with the incorrectly made ones?
Ta,
Chris.
Wasnt the same as your problem, I think yours are just at extremes of tolerance...
A jig is very accurate, but I found when building mine, it does have some bits that arent 100% consistent, the brackets are only bent metal after
all...
Its nothing that causes a problem longer term, but if you have brackets at the outer edges of their tolerance, and wishbones that are at the slimmer
edge of their tolerance its gonna be a tight fit...
Which is what yours is I think...
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 05:58 AM |
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I think I may just be being a little picky to be honest.
What are the effects of a tight wishbone?
As you said earlier Ian, it's important to get the polybushes in flush against the side of the wishbone face. What happens if these are squeezed
a little by the nut and bolt?
I think what I'm trying to ask is when the bolt is inserted through a polybush and crush tube what should pivot when the wishbone is moved up
and down?
Should the polybush stay stationary and the wishbone pivot? Or should the wishbone and polybush pivot on the crush tube?
Thanks again,
Chris.
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Peteff
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 08:43 AM |
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the wishbone and polybush pivot on the crush tube
Apparently this is a matter which can cause lengthy discussion and much name calling. I'll risk it though and say the above.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Bryan Sears
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 02:40 PM |
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When I fitted my suspension I found that I could make It fit by standing on one end of the wishbone and pulling it with both hands to make the gap
wider not very technical but it made it fit hope this helps.
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Krismc
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| posted on 28/4/06 at 04:09 PM |
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I have the same clearance issue on my up rear most (inward) bolt, i didnt fancy cutting the bolts down but if thats the only way then hey i better get
on with it, what about the nut??
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 28/4/06 at 08:19 PM |
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Winston Sorry for the delay in geting back to you mentioned to mark .
You need to 'tweak' your rear boanes as mentioned above pulling them apart as Mark suspects they have pulled when they were welded up a
small tweak should sort you out.
Regards
Agriv8
[Edited on 28/4/06 by Agriv8]
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 28/4/06 at 11:54 PM |
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Cheers Ian,
Already sorted! Went together perfectly!
Chris.
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Krismc
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| posted on 29/4/06 at 08:25 AM |
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see i bit of bending hear and there sorts every thing out.. ha ha
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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