matt.c
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| posted on 8/3/07 at 10:03 PM |
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cool see you there
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TimC
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| posted on 9/3/07 at 02:50 PM |
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Who's going?
I'm there on my Jack Jones so it'd be good to pretend to have friends! 
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ReMan
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| posted on 9/3/07 at 05:02 PM |
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I'm going as long as its dry enough to go in the Indy, hope theree's VIP parking
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marc n
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| posted on 10/3/07 at 06:50 PM |
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well all loaded up
we are transporting via a mates recovery truck as we didnt have time to clear out and load our truck, so any one want to pop along and say hello we
will be with a white and red recovery truck sign written simon graeme auto service centre
best regards
marc
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matt.c
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| posted on 11/3/07 at 07:54 PM |
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marc, how did you get on? Did everything go to plan or where there disasters!
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JoelP
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| posted on 11/3/07 at 08:27 PM |
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the 750mc site doesnt seem to work atm...
ooh the suspense
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G.Man
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| posted on 11/3/07 at 08:34 PM |
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hope we find out soon
Opinions are like backsides..
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marc n
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| posted on 11/3/07 at 10:30 PM |
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well im back
Not a good day im afraid
went out for qualifying did four slow laps to make sure i qualified for race, then started to push the car first lap got baulked in traffic, second
car would not rev cleanly or hard enough and started misfiring and started to pull off track then came back to life then third lap engine overheated
enptied all its water and scoulded my feet game over, qaulified a pitifull 20th i think, spent all afternoon changing end can ( too much back pressure
on my alloy one ) not allowing it to rev ( couldnt even get on the rev limiter ), bleading cooling system, cleaning carbs, draining fuel tank and
refilling,
Started race made a great start car absoloutly flying made up i think ten or more places from the start and on the run up to the hairpin car pulling
like a train then unfortunately the poor chap in front braked a lot earlier than i expected it caught me totally unaware and i ran up the back of him,
cycling wing bracket bent and ripped front flexi hose off game over
all in all not agreat day. although after our tweeks between qualifying and race the car was running on song again, i guess it shows i should have
been to the test session to iron out the little problems encountered, the over heating was caused we think by an airlock car has not run for a couple
of months so would explain it
On the positive side
1. although the engine is not top notch and a genuine scrap yard engine we did have it running pretty well for the race and in a straight line seemed
only lacking a tad on the others rather than three to four car lengths in qualifying
2. The cars turn in and traction was awsome even more so when we stiffened the rear slightly
unfortunately i was a little rusty
roll on donnington ( hopefully may be able to do a track day to ensure the overheating is fixed beforehand ) and we should be able to a little more
preparation before hand
It was always going to be a long shot doing the first race with no testing, but i thought we might be able to wing it
best regards
marc
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TimC
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 07:43 AM |
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Was rather gutting to be watching from the hairpin that's for sure.
I have to say though, RGB is just awesome to watch. That T5 Mission is seriously quick. If anything catches that this season it'll be bl**dy
amazing!
All is not lost for 7-shapes either - A Westy (I think) finished fourth.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 08:33 AM |
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Was going to post somthing last night But My laptop seems to have decided that it is not going to let me acess Locostbuilders.
Marc there is one way of looking at it - at least we have room for improvement for future races. re the track day nahh stick the plates back on and
we will spend the day avoinding the undercover police Scubbies in north yorkshire 
Regards
Agriv8
[Edited on 12/3/07 by Agriv8]
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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G.Man
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 09:36 AM |
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marc
what engine are you running?
bad luck on the day, but thats racing mate...
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marc n
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 11:36 AM |
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hi mark running a fitreblade 919 cc
just checked the car on the scales etc everything as it left here so no damage apart from possible engine adfter over heating a wheel arch nosecone
and flexi hose
strangley enough though i did actually enjoy the day, the other competitors all seemed very pleasant and the whole thing was so much more relaxed than
im used too, really looking forward to getting the engine dramas sorted and having some good races, im more than confident in the chassis and
suspension the car felt great, just need a few more hp and a cooler engine and finish a few other jobs on the car and we will be right up there, as
timn says i dont tghink there is a deficit on running a 7 aero wise as tghe westy was pretty damn quick down tghe straights
best regards
marc
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G.Man
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 11:55 AM |
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Ah is that the only engine you are allowed then?
Guess its the fireblade class you decided upon in the end then.. hehe
One thing to check is the fitment of the rad cap on the header tank, coz if you remember I had problems with the "outer" part of the cap
not sealing properly and as a result if it overheated, it dumped hot water all over my feet rather than down the overflow hose (and over the track
hehe)
I eventually replaced the cap for a higher pressure one with a lever lock, and that cured the problem..
No matter what, the header tank filling should not blow water out of anywhere but the hose, so I reckon you have a similar problem to me...
My other problem was the pump not moving the water fast enough, but that was cured with an EWP80 water pump...
That wont be your problem, but you may wish to consider fitting one and removing the engine impeller, as it releases a good few more hp at the top
end... remove the thermostat and add the controller for better engine temperature control..
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Agriv8
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 12:05 PM |
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Remove that stat , we looked at that option and it hasnt got one in,
Personally dont like the idea as is some case it needs the restricted flow to work correctly.
maybe another item to place on the to test and try list is a 'Gutted thermostat' Ie running just the restrictor O. know this is OK on my
V8 ( once had one stick shut on the V8 buggy ) but not sure of best practive with the bike stuff.
regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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TimC
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 12:10 PM |
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Enjoy yourself this year, win Class A in the LMP next year. What could be more simple?
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marc n
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 12:25 PM |
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thing i cant understand with the cooling is the fact we ran this car last year in the same config with two people in for a longer duration and never
had a problem, thats why its gotta be an airlock
best regards
marc
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marc n
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 12:26 PM |
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quite like the idea of staying in class c with the seven and maybe doing bikesports in the lmp then i can race both
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G.Man
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 12:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
Remove that stat , we looked at that option and it hasnt got one in,
Personally dont like the idea as is some case it needs the restricted flow to work correctly.
maybe another item to place on the to test and try list is a 'Gutted thermostat' Ie running just the restrictor O. know this is OK on my
V8 ( once had one stick shut on the V8 buggy ) but not sure of best practive with the bike stuff.
regards
Agriv8
Dont need any restriction with the EWP controller, as it changes the flow rate so you can keep the optimum temperature in the engine... You dial in
the temp you want on the engine and the pump takes care of the rest... worth £200 of anyones money, and you will see a lot of people running these in
the BEC classes..
The thing with a thermostat is that you really want to have the best possible flow potential, for when you do need the cooling, keeping an engine warm
is not a problem by lots of methods, but cooling as much as possible, always adds some excitement... trust me on that one, its taken me ages to fix
the cooling on my zx12r, header tank cap, new 4 core race rad, and eventually, the final fix, beefed up water pump and removal of thermostat.. And
bear in mind, the temp here in cyprus is MUCH lower than UK summer, and this was with the engine idling, not blasting about!
Airlock sounds entirely possible, I dont dispute that at all, what I am talking about is changes you can make that will liberate some powah!
Even with an airlock, if it boils over the water shouldn't have soaked your legs unless you dont have an overflow pipe attached to the header
tank or the cap does not tighten down properly so the seal is effective... that was the problem with mine!
Remember what you said to me marc, get the right stuff now, and then you wont spend the, money later...
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matt.c
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 09:30 PM |
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sorry to hear of you bad misfortune marc
Dont worry mate, you win some and you lose some
Will be routeing for you all year
Best of luck in the next race.
Cheers marc
matt
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procomp
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 09:08 AM |
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Hi for anyone who is interested in a race report for the RGB race it can be found
HERE.
I think that phill will hopfully continue to post a report after every race. So will be worth checking in after the races.
HTH for anyone interested.
cheers matt
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G.Man
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:13 AM |
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Marc Norton
(snigger)
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progers
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 02:31 PM |
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Hi Marc,
Good to have met you at the weekend. Sorry your race didn't go so well
My race wasn't all that great either, had gear selection problems during the race and lost loads of places hitting false neutrals coming out of
the hairpin..... Thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it
Roll on Donington, cant't wait.
- Paul
P.S. Did you realise there is an allcomers race (+ practice) as well at Donington - good chance to get some practice in for the RGB race later in the
day.
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marc n
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 12:19 AM |
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hi paul
good to meet you too
just changing another engine , not going to do the allcomers race it means id have to be there too early in the morning
although i may try and do a half trackday somewhere just to check if everything is ok, just depends on time still havent really finished my car
properly yet and we are still finishing mathew lewis s car as we speak
see you at donnington hope you get the gear problems sorted
cheers
marc
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