oldmanmille
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 01:11 PM |
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DCOE carbs v Bike Carbs
Guys,
I am struggling to make a final decision and need your expert advice:
Inlet manifold was to be mnade by KNN but they have informed that they cant do it now due to supply problems. Theirs was half the price of Bogg Bros
(quality will come into it i know). So I can either:
Inlet manifold (£270) + Carbs (£65) + MJ (£105) = Total £440.00
Dunnell manifold + twin DCOE carburettors + 3D Clubmans Ignition Management System (IMS) + Wiring Loom = £693.00
I know there is £250.00 difference in going DCOE route but is it worrth it or not?
I want to ensure I make the right choice at this stage
Thanks,
John
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DarrenW
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 01:26 PM |
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Boggs inlet manifold is £176 iirc. With carbs mounted, cleaned and basic jetting i think closer to £240 but could be wrong. You are somewhere near at
£400 all in.
Not many would have compared the 2 you talk about but im sure many will say go the bike carb route.
I managed to get a manifold for £50, carbs free, filter £35, odds and sods etc probs £50, throttle cable £20, Choke cable TBD, Gasket £15 ish. Fitted
to car ill be around £190 then set up later probs £100 so should be under £300 all in. I couldnt have bought 2nd hand webers for that and they would
need refurbing and probs new linkages etc.
You can use MJLJ for either option.
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 01:35 PM |
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I'd imagine using MJ with the DCOEs would bring the prices a bit closer to each other. Seems unnecessary to go with an expensive system for the
Webers if you're happy with the MJ to go with the bike carbs.
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whitestu
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 01:48 PM |
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I was planning to use KNN - what are their supply problems?
Stu
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oldmanmille
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 01:58 PM |
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Don't know to be honest Stu. I got an email from them saying they would have to decline my business due to supply. They don't provide a
phone number so I can't even have a chat with them!
Shame really as price and the quality was what I wanted/needed, but alas...
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DarrenW
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 02:02 PM |
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I think if i was looking again id probs save up some cash and get Boggs to supply and set up the carbs, manifold etc ready to bolt on. Not sure what
they charge for filter and cables etc. i know there full turn key conversion is about what you have costed for the DCOE setup which is why many get
the manifold off them and then do the rest themselves.
Going the diy route you have to suss out the jetting etc yourself and probs still need to budget a final RR set up later. Its the jetting etc that i
know least about.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 02:02 PM |
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Someone on this site is doing manifolds IIRC Fatboy Dave?? Sure there have been recent posts
[Edited on 12/7/07 by rusty nuts]
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PeterW
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 02:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Someone on this site is doing manifolds IIRC Fatboy Dave?? Sure there have been recent posts
[Edited on 12/7/07 by rusty nuts]
I did my own, using 5mm ally plate and some 38mm ally tube. Welded together with Easiweld rods whilst bolted onto an old head to stop warping
Total cost for bits was £20, and done in a couple of evenings.
Piccies in my archive.
Total costs so far for me are £35 for the carbs, £20 for manifold, £90 for MJ from Rayward and £10 for the coil and Edis bits from the scrappy.
I recon I'll be done for around £200
Whatever route you go, a rolling road session is needed. I used to do twin dell'ortos on Minis and the only decent way to get them sorted was to
do it rolling.
Cheers
Pete
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thesnake505
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 02:15 PM |
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knn maifolds have a 28 day turn around, how ever i got my carbs after two weeks and can be happier with them, they cost £200 for maifold and carbs,
filters were £32 for four with postage of the bay hope this helps snake
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oldmanmille
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 02:27 PM |
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Yes snake I was going down the route with KNN but was awaiting my carbs but int he meantime they have emailed me to say they cannot now help me due to
supply problems so given all the advice aboive, i am going to go bike carbs route and with Boggs.
I'm safer this way, so thanks everyone for settling my mind 
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pajsh
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 02:34 PM |
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Twin Dellorto's fully refurbed and jetted £135 (Ebay)
Pinto Manifold £20 (2nd hand)
Other items (Megajolt, EDIS, coil pack, TPS, VR sensor, loom, filters, rampipes, gaskets, seals, studs, set-up etc) are going to be much the same for
either option.
Still wish I'd gone bike carbs though as it seems they are more fuel efficient and more refined, so people say.
I used to be apathetic but now I just don't care.
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 04:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Someone on this site is doing manifolds IIRC Fatboy Dave?? Sure there have been recent posts
[Edited on 12/7/07 by rusty nuts]
I am indeed, I have Zetec and XE on the shelf right now. Other manifolds are usually 10-14 day turnaround. Quicker if I have the flanges on the
shelf.
What engine is it?
Dave
Stop the planet, I want to get off
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mcerd1
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 04:16 PM |
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Bogg bros are really helpful (although I've not had mine running yet)
Manifold + ZX9R carbs + clean and 'first guess' jetting = £295 + VAT for my pinto
+ a bit more for a filter and so on (but thats easy enough to do yourself)
and you still need a go on the rollers what ever way you go (I think bogg bros said about £70 to jet the bike carbs - but I could be wrong)
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big_wasa
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 04:20 PM |
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Made your mind up 
You cant beat the look of 45's Link
If they work aswell as the bogg brothers R1 set-up I had, remains to be seen 
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oldmanmille
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| posted on 12/7/07 at 10:47 PM |
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Dave,
I am putting R6 carbs onto Zetec 1.8. How much for manifold? and do you offer a service to clean, space and jet the carbs?
If not the latter, who would do that for me?
Cheers,
John
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 14/7/07 at 02:33 PM |
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you have u2u 
Dave
Stop the planet, I want to get off
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dave r
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| posted on 16/7/07 at 06:48 PM |
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anyone got a phone number for knn??
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oldmanmille
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| posted on 16/7/07 at 09:09 PM |
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I asked but they never responded, so no, I don't, sorry!
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