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Johneturbo

posted on 17/11/07 at 05:41 PM Reply With Quote
Seat mounting

Hello all,
I've been looking at mounting the seat runner.
but on the old style chassis there are two bars running across.
is that something i need to make, or am i missing something!
here's a pic.
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jos

posted on 17/11/07 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
Steve (worX) has bolted his gulf cars seats straight to the floor





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jos

posted on 17/11/07 at 05:47 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.p4nts.co.uk/MNR/slides/mnr6%20(4).html

http://www.p4nts.co.uk/MNR/slides/mnr6%20(5).html



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Johneturbo

posted on 17/11/07 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
I wasn't sure if a few rivets and some clue would hold me in! even thou i'm not a fatty
thanks for the pics, and the great avatar

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zxrlocost

posted on 17/11/07 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
you need to space seat up using some solid tube alloy etc

and you need to get some repair washers for underneath when you bolt up

repair washers are like load washers ie wider






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Johneturbo

posted on 17/11/07 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
So it would be ok to mount the runner on the ally floor, with some tubing to space it up a little. its just that the floor is only held in with rivets and clue.
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amalyos

posted on 17/11/07 at 09:28 PM Reply With Quote
I wouldn't suggest bolting straight to the ally floor !! The stress through the fixings will work the ally and crack it.
You need to spread the load, I riveted some ply to the floor then mounted though the floor and ply.







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Krismc

posted on 17/11/07 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
I mounted my runners with 2 fixings directly 2 the floor with 6 washers under neath and the other 2 to the diagonal rail that you show in you picture, i managed to pick one fixing up at the front and one up at the back...best of both worlds i thought!!

anyway its the seat belt that stops you in a crash!





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stuart_g

posted on 17/11/07 at 10:20 PM Reply With Quote
Krismc, If you have gone through the diagonal chassis tube have you fitted anti crush tubes inside the chassis tube? just a thought as I believe this is an SVA requirement. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

[Edited on 17/11/07 by stuart_g]

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zxrlocost

posted on 17/11/07 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
hi stu

I dont think the SVA man would take a blind bit off notice on somethink like that

on a Roll Cage would be different although not a good idea in the first place

PS I agree with the strips to support the seat however Ive seen plenty who have just gone through the floor and never had a prob






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stuart_g

posted on 17/11/07 at 10:30 PM Reply With Quote
It was just a thought as when I did the mounts in my old RH2B chassis I read in the SVA manual that hollow sections should have anti crush tubes fitted. Whether the SVA man would actually check who knows.

[Edited on 17/11/07 by stuart_g]

[Edited on 17/11/07 by stuart_g]

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snapper

posted on 18/11/07 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
There is a very specific section in the SVA manual on seat mounting and the minimum seems to be "seat or runners bolted directly to the floor with load spreading washers under the floor of about 50mm square and 2mm thick.





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Johneturbo

posted on 18/11/07 at 11:22 AM Reply With Quote
Ok thanks for the suggestions guys, i might go with the Krismc route having one half of each runner on the diagonal rail.........or something else

[Edited on 18/11/07 by Johneturbo]

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marc n

posted on 18/11/07 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
hi john

let me know the hieght you want the seats at and i will run a load of bosses off this week in between other jobs, will keep a load in stock if anyone else needs any

cheers

marc





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TimC

posted on 18/11/07 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jos
Steve (worX) has bolted his gulf cars seats straight to the floor


Who's bl@@dy car?

Steve's also used the chassis bar where it's suited us to:



Steve's doing a great job working through these things on MY car.



[Edited on 18/11/07 by TimC]






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Johneturbo

posted on 18/11/07 at 10:46 PM Reply With Quote
Yes please Marc
i was thinkin of mounting one half of each runner on the diagonal with a M8 rivnut. so i'd need the boss to be that thicknes for the other half of the runner. hope that makes sense.
or should i just mount them all on the floor, then i'd need the runner to clear the diagonal bar...... as you can tell i'm not really a tape measure guy

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marc n

posted on 19/11/07 at 07:10 AM Reply With Quote
hi john
dont use rivnuts, drill all the way through, a rivnut is great for fixing bodywork or trim but not seats or structual parts, send me an email of the bosses and will sort

cheers

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Johneturbo

posted on 19/11/07 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
Ok i wont use a rivnut
email sent
cheers
john

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