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psaleh

posted on 17/2/08 at 12:29 AM Reply With Quote
Fuel Lines

Managed to crush the MNR supplied one in the 'cheap' pipe bender I've been using so tried some microbore from b&q. This stuff seems very weak and kinks very easily. I'm going to be running a carb'd r1 engine so was wondering what others had doen in terms of fuel pipes here.

Main questions are :-

Was thinking about using braided hoses instead as theres quite a lot of bending involved. Anyone done this? Advice, recommendations?

Is Kunifer better then Microbore? If so how easily does it bend? Best methods for using it?

Thanks in advance.





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Mr Whippy

posted on 17/2/08 at 02:19 AM Reply With Quote
I used microbore for the houses heating. Don't like it much, if your happy with the extra cost use braided.





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martin1973

posted on 17/2/08 at 09:44 AM Reply With Quote
i used gas pipe from the local caravan shop 5/8 or 7mm size.
easy to bend dosent kink so easy as its softish.








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graememk

posted on 17/2/08 at 09:51 AM Reply With Quote
i also used gas pipe.






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billynomates

posted on 17/2/08 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
There was a post about this ealrlier this week. Think the recomendation was kunifer.
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Bigheppy

posted on 17/2/08 at 10:17 AM Reply With Quote
It is true to say that 8mm copper is soft and easy to bend. But to ensure no kinks on tight bends in our applications, an external bending spring is required. Slip it over the pipe and form the bend slightly further than required then open up to the correct size and the spring can then be moved to the next position where a bend is required. These types of spring have an advantage over a tube bender as the bends can be done with the pipe in place. With practice and strong thumbs bends with a radius of 20mm are acheivable.
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billynomates

posted on 17/2/08 at 10:21 AM Reply With Quote
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=82570

It was to do with brake lines actually, not fuel lines.

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TimC

posted on 17/2/08 at 10:26 AM Reply With Quote
Braided hose seems to be standard kit on Mac#1s so I took their lead. Same engine as you by the way - not that it makes a lot of difference. Rescued attachment Picture 002.jpg
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RazMan

posted on 17/2/08 at 02:32 PM Reply With Quote
Personally I would go for braided as it is not only protected from debris damage but also remains flexible and you can crimp on the correct fittings for the job making it look more professional.





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robinj66

posted on 17/2/08 at 03:51 PM Reply With Quote
nothing wrong with braided fuel hoses but you will have to be able to satisfy the SVA tester that the hoses are fit for purpose (ie, carrying fuel)
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finlay

posted on 17/2/08 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
i wish i used braided instead of copper, infact i might change it while i still can
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psaleh

posted on 17/2/08 at 10:54 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys, looks like its braided hoses with proof for SVA. I would use copper but I dont like the idea of laying everything down and then kinking the pipe whilst trying to carry out another job.

Any advice on where I can get some braided hoses with the relevant proof for SVA compliance?





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bassett

posted on 18/2/08 at 12:18 AM Reply With Quote
Me and my dad set about this fun job at the weekend. Using the pipe MNR supplied we pushed thick cable through the pipe to bend it without kinking. In really tight areas we made the bends with fuel hose, flared the ends and held them on with jubilee clips.
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bobs bangers

posted on 18/2/08 at 12:34 AM Reply With Quote
Just a question what "proof " is required for sva ? This is my first build so sorry if that's a stupid question.

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RazMan

posted on 18/2/08 at 08:44 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bassett
we made the bends with fuel hose, flared the ends and held them on with jubilee clips.


A word of caution here - some testers frown on jubilee clips used on fuel pipe. Far better to use proper fuel pipe clips as they can't pinch the pipe causing leaks.





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RazMan

posted on 18/2/08 at 08:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bobs bangers
Just a question what "proof " is required for sva ?


When you purchase the fuel pipe (flexible stuff anyway) you should ask for a specification sheet which states that it is suitable for use with petrol. Mr SVA won't question it then.





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bobs bangers

posted on 18/2/08 at 10:04 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks razman

I can still alter my spec on things like that as the kit isn't due till early March.

Will go braided then.

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bassett

posted on 18/2/08 at 02:04 PM Reply With Quote
I suppose they could but if it fails it shouldnt be too hard to replace. What sort of clips would you recommend?
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