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kb58 - 18/7/05 at 02:38 PM

Maybe it's the season, kids out of school, people on vacation, or us hard at work on projects?

I've run into a psychological project stopper, body work. I've discovered I don't like doing it - at all. I have new-found appreciation and respect for the guys here who can work through months and months of sanding and filling. Me, I dislike it so much I've stopped, and am working on other parts of the car, anything to avoid it. That doesn't help project completion at all!

I'm going to take part of the shell to a bodyshop in an effort to get myself past this "builder's block." Not only do I not like doing body work, I don't do it very well. Time to cast off the ego and get some help, assuming they don't charge too much...

[Edited on 7/18/05 by kb58]


Alan B - 18/7/05 at 03:18 PM

Totally agree....bodywork sucks....BIG TIME....

That is one my excuses for slow progress, weather is another as is other stuff going on......but I am progressing albeit a little slowly...

Keep going KB, you'll get there...


ned - 18/7/05 at 03:19 PM

i find that its just too hot in the garage at the moment, ibit like a greenhouse. I am having a builders block too, complete lack of motivation as it just seems to be taking an eternity to do anything on the car. I've got other jobs that need doing on the normal car which are taking up spannering time at the moment too.

Ned.


scoobyis2cool - 18/7/05 at 03:33 PM

At least you're putting it off by doing other bits of work on the car - that means that even though you feel like you're just procrastinating, you are actually progressing! Hope you can find some motivation from somewhere

Pete


Andrew+dad - 18/7/05 at 05:58 PM

yeah i hate doing bodywork


at the moment i am meant to be filling then sanding down my landrover because i already have the paint to paint it with and a brush but i just cant be bothered its the most boring job ive had to do so far ...


scoobyis2cool - 18/7/05 at 06:17 PM

Can you paint bodywork with a brush?!

Pete


bigandy - 18/7/05 at 07:27 PM

I know how you feel! I've ran into a few problems getting the right bits for my car, and to be honest, I have been more interested in doing other things!

It's good to have a break though, and come back to it with a renewed enthusiasm. It's either that or plod on, get even more fed up, and sell the thing as an unfinished project!

Cheers
Andy


sgraber - 18/7/05 at 07:44 PM

I think taking a bit of a break can be a good thing. Let's me re-focus on the items in my life that are more important than (gasp) car building....

I feel your pain Kurt, yours too Alan! I have an estimated 10 hours of finish sanding left before I wax down for molds...


Peteff - 18/7/05 at 07:56 PM

It's a Landrover, nuff said . Why bother rubbing down, my mate George didn't even clean his before he painted it and it was still an improvement. A litre of gloss with half an inch of white spirit on top, stir well and it runs its own brushmarks out.


JC - 18/7/05 at 08:40 PM

I've just started from scratch again as the person who was building my chassis is ill and I can't retrieve it. Will post photos soon!!


robinbastd - 18/7/05 at 09:25 PM

Soon........or that's what I keep telling myself! So far this year I have remodelled my gift shop,farted around with my webshop till the cows came home (and died of old age) Now I'm in the midst of rebuilding an old mobile home which has been named "Downward Leigh"
Then I can evict the tractor and build the garage of my dreams.......and then I can start my car build. Hopefully there will still be petrol by the time I finish.

Upside? I've lost 4 stone so far this year!

Ian


Triton - 18/7/05 at 09:39 PM

Too many cornish pasties mate........ thought you were supposed to leave a bit for them there pixie blokes not eat it all yourself


robinbastd - 18/7/05 at 09:58 PM

Cornish pasty fact # 1: The test of a good pasty was to drop it down a mine shaft,if it didn't break it's a good'un.
Fact # 2: Miners would use the crust as a handle and throw that bit away so the the piskies died from arsenic poisoning and not them.

Anyway Mark,if you lost 4 stone you'd have ceased to exist!

Slim


MrFluffy - 18/7/05 at 10:03 PM

Solution, just use someone elses cover
Ive actually sliced and diced my car ready for the new (unbuilt) chassis...
And next month hopefully Ill be getting a new workshop...


jonbeedle - 19/7/05 at 12:55 AM

Yesterday I was leaning on my roll bar gazing down at my newly installed fuel tank and I dozed off standing up!
It was just too hot to work so I put my feet up and had a beer and decided that tomorrow was another day!
Sometimes it pays to admit defeat!
Cheers
Jon


kb58 - 19/7/05 at 03:55 AM

That happens to me too, leaning back in the chair in the garage just thinking about things and a nap happens.

Regarding my project in general, I think I'm a bit burnt out. That and knowing it's effectively done, that everything else is just for show, or some nagging little part for something or other. Hard to press on with things. With the heat building it's all to easy to just sit inside and play Battlefield 2...


RazMan - 19/7/05 at 08:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by robinbastd

Upside? I've lost 4 stone so far this year!

Ian


I was sweating buckets outside my garage in the sun over the weekend (chassis is inside you see) It was damned hot but it is my only playtime coz I work late during the week so I persevered, sanding, filling, blending, swearing etc.
When I weighed myself the next morning I found that I had lost 4 pounds!!
I have now calculated that by the time I finish the bodywork I will weigh 4 stone!!!

The wife found out and wants to build a car of her own now! Now I just need to calculate the cost difference between a new kit and a Weight Watchers membership


Schrodinger - 20/7/05 at 05:42 PM

Mr Fluffy
That looks like a Nova body that you're using or something similar, I had thought of using that myself!


Mave - 20/7/05 at 06:28 PM

Ah, fellow-bodybuilders!
I totally know the feeling. I totally had it last week(s). Making bodywork for a Seven is terrible, but for a full body car it must be even worse.
So I made a decision, to bring my stuff to a professional, to let him make a quotation for sanding it smooth, and spray-painting it. I decided that if it was above a certain amount, I would admit defeat, and buy MK Indy's bodywork.
I was very suprised when he told me the quotation! It was much LOWER than I had expected!
So now I'm all motivated to get all my bodywork ready for him to start his work! I want to see it finished!!!!!

So remember, there's always light at the end of the tunnel. And I'm really looking forward to seeing your cars finished. So go out, and build!

Marcel


tadltd - 20/7/05 at 09:13 PM

HEAT?

What heat?

It's the middle of bloody July here, and it's barely in double figures, blowing a gale, and pi$$ing down!

Anyone in a hot country got room for an LMP or 2?!


robinbastd - 20/7/05 at 09:19 PM

Anyone in a hot country got room for an LMP or 2?

Try England!

Failing that try Cornwall,which according to some of the more inbred/closely related locals is a separate country. It was 70(in old money) something again here today.

Ian


kreb - 21/7/05 at 10:16 PM

quote:

Anyone in a hot country got room for an LMP or 2?!



It's hovering around 70 degrees here in Northern California.(21 Celsius) Tell you what. I'll trade you a Stalker for a LMP and put you to work in my shop! Hell, if you know any journeymen sheet metal workers that want to immigrate to the colonies I'll put them to work too. Not enough good tradespeople here!


suparuss - 22/7/05 at 05:32 AM

need any chippy's? i can weld too though! i would love to get out of this country.
ive just about finished getting my garage sorted, 2 sheds later and it looks like a shanty town in me backyard but the garage is clear! also remote plumbed my compressor cos its bloody noisy. my garage is shaded by a small forest though so the asbestos roof doesnt get much direct sunlight and dosnt get that hot!
i learned most my joinery skills working in a mold making workshop so cant wait to start my body work cos itll be all second nature to me, getting things smooth is a right pain tho.


turbo time - 22/7/05 at 06:55 AM

I should be working on finishing those last simple bits on the murderer, and yet, it sits in the garage, and I've already got my next project on tap: http://www.freewebs.com/supersprite

D'oh, I'll get it completely done eventually, really!

[Edited on 22/7/05 by turbo time]


Peteff - 22/7/05 at 09:04 AM

If that's a frogeye I want it. I love those cars.


andkilde - 22/7/05 at 12:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
If that's a frogeye I want it. I love those cars.


Eeek!

The previous owner should be put on trial beside Saddam -- poor bugeye

Don't look at the pictures Pete, they'll break your heart.

ta


Peteff - 22/7/05 at 12:25 PM

You're right he should.


sgraber - 22/7/05 at 02:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by andkilde
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
If that's a frogeye I want it. I love those cars.


Eeek!

The previous owner should be put on trial beside Saddam -- poor bugeye

Don't look at the pictures Pete, they'll break your heart.

ta


Yes, it is shameful... But thankfully now that a guy like Turbo Time is getting involved, I am certain that he will get it cleaned up nicely.

Graber

[Edited on 7/22/05 by sgraber]


turbo time - 22/7/05 at 04:21 PM

HAHAHA , You guys have no idea how close you actually are... The reason that the car has been sitting there for 15 years, and the reason that I'm getting it so cheap is because the previous owner (who built the car) is in prison for the rest of his life, and his buddy (whose yard the car was kept in as a favor) is moving and finally has decided to get rid of it because enough is enough...


Peteff - 22/7/05 at 05:15 PM

See, there is still some justice left .


kreb - 25/7/05 at 02:33 PM

Hey Kent! How come no progress on your middie? You can't take it that far and leave it in the weeds! (Well actually you can, but it'd be a shame)


Alan B - 25/7/05 at 03:02 PM

Off topic in way, but then again not really....

I had a inspiring and motivating weekend. I got taken for a ride in Dennis Brunton's Super Stalker...

It is the fastest car I've ever been in...by a long way.....prior to the ride 0-60 in around 6.5 to 7 secs was my fastest....so as you can imagine 4 secs in very very quick.

So, anyway that's why I was quiet this weekend....


sgraber - 25/7/05 at 04:10 PM

Ah the Stalker: Brunton's Stalker is a wonderful American re-interpretation of the Seven. Had I not started my own middy build, I would have bought one right off.


turbo time - 25/7/05 at 05:35 PM

quote:

Hey Kent! How come no progress on your middie? You can't take it that far and leave it in the weeds! (Well actually you can, but it'd be a shame)



Heh, it's just the stupidest little things I suppose. I just need the shifter cables done up, but I keep putting it off for absolutley no reason. I'll finish it, it's just a matter of procrastination at the moment.
Well, and in general, I have always been far more excited about actually building the car projects than about driving the end result. Just me I guess, a week of driving any one car is plenty for me, then I'm bored and ready for another.

[Edited on 25/7/05 by turbo time]


kb58 - 25/7/05 at 06:54 PM

quote:
... and in general, I have always been far more excited about actually building the car projects than about driving the end result.


You know, deep down, I wonder if I have this same problem. Is it that you like building cars or are afraid to drive something that may kill you? I think it's both for me...

[Edited on 7/25/05 by kb58]


kreb - 25/7/05 at 10:41 PM

That's a thought deserving of it's own thread. My good friend Ted Saton is constantly building cars, yet never races them and doesn't even drive them that much. I think that building and driving stimulate different things within us, and some are just more tuned in to one than the other.

Personally I'm in a quandary. The Stalker is mighty quick, and I absolutely love it on the track. Part of me wants to get my license and take it to actual race events rather than just track days, but then I'd have to spend more money, clutter the car up with a full cage, and run the chance of stashing it outright.

So my idea is to build a full-race locost, using a boosted Miata donor, but.... will I really want to subject that to the rigors of a track? Once I've got several hundred hours into the thing? I guess that the answer is yes, if only from a financial standpoint. I've got about $15k into the Stalker, whereas my Miata Donor cost me about $500, I run a steel fab shop, so that and the alum will be cheap - I can probably build the sucker for $2k to $3k depending upon how much I put into things like rubber, wheels and engine management. It'll still be tough to send my "baby" into the "killing fields".

btw, it's difficult to get the power from the naturally aspirated 3.4 Stalker to the ground in an auto-X situation, much less the supercharged 3.8. While I could use the extra power on an open track, in an auto-x you almost need to be an expert driver to extract the most from the Super Stalker without squandering your speed in clouds of wheelspin.


Alan B - 26/7/05 at 12:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kreb
....in an auto-x you almost need to be an expert driver to extract the most from the Super Stalker without squandering your speed in clouds of wheelspin.


Which is exactly how I'd describe Dennis...his numerous FTDs are combination of great car and great driving...
However, I totally agree...more power needs more driving skill....no doubt in my mind..but in the right hands it can be used..


kreb - 26/7/05 at 01:34 PM

I'm sure that being one of the fastest flat-trackers in South Africa for years "eased" Dennis' transition to autocross

The really fast guys in auto-x almost seem to skim the surface. Everything is threshold - braking, turning, accelerating; they're at the extreme limits of adhesion constantly, so the tires literally "walk the line". It's a real pleasure to watch. (sigh) someday.........