What do we think about it? I'm not sure any more! Is it really sporting to allow one team the opportunity to try and intimidate the other
without a right of reply!? Is it sporting at all to let one team make a 'throat slitting' gesture to another? As a Scotland fan, should I
even be allowed to have an opinion on anything to do with rugby!?
I guess I wouldn't mind them doing it in their warm-up... but not be given special place and time to do it right in front of the opposition!
In any case... if you thought that the Haka is scary now, then you want to have seen it in 1973. TRULY TERRIFYING!!!
Haka Linky
If I was on the opposition, I'd just chat to my team mates and pointedly ignore them. Ideally walk past them and stand behind.
With a show like that they need a choreographer, Louis Spence to show them how to perform
I've always been of the opinion that 'right of reply' should be granted in response to the Haka. The thing is after all a challenge and
meant to intimidate the opposition. If the entire opposing team dropped their DAKS and mooned at the A/Bs it would probably cause uproar, but hell
it'd be worth it.
How about the full England team doing a bit of Morris Dancing as a reply!
Absolutely terrifying
Samoans and Tongans have an equivalent to the Haka. So, I would guess that any team could probably legitimately have such a performance.
I am not sure which version of the Haka they now do, but previously they did
Ka Mate
which according to Wikipedia
"
Te Rauparaha composed Ka Mate circa 1820 as a celebration of life over death[1] after his lucky escape from pursuing Ngati Maniapoto and Waikato
enemies. He had hidden from them in a food-storage pit, and climbed back into the light to be met by a chief friendly to him - Te Whareangi (the
"hairy man".
"
Running away from his enemies and hiding in a food pit, not quite as scary as it looks!
The performance against France was fairly compelling though.
Matt
Who ever said that the NZrs were sporting - if any other team did anything half as intimidating to them there would be a national outcry - I think that the Boks should do a Zulu wardance in reply and I am suree the Brits could come up withsomething Pictish
who cares, its all part of the sport
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Originally posted by scootz
What do we think about it? I'm not sure any more! Is it really sporting to allow one team the opportunity to try and intimidate the other without a right of reply!? Is it sporting at all to let one team make a 'throat slitting' gesture to another? As a Scotland fan, should I even be allowed to have an opinion on anything to do with rugby!?
I guess I wouldn't mind them doing it in their warm-up... but not be given special place and time to do it right in front of the opposition!
In any case... if you thought that the Haka is scary now, then you want to have seen it in 1973. TRULY TERRIFYING!!!
Haka Linky
at that half-assed effort of 1973. You'd think they'd have cracked it 67 years after it's inception to the All-Black match preparations!!!
Could always go in for some taunting, French style. Check out 'Monty Python French taunting' on Youtube. "Go away or I will fart in
your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries.'
Classic !
Any professional player actually intimidated by the Haka shouldn't be in their countries shirt IMO.
It's just there for the TV and tradition to be honest.
Though a Morris dance is an inspired comeback.
Frighten them with some Military Campness!
There was an inteview with Martin Johnson in a Lions tour a few years ago where he talked about it. His view, and the view of most players, was that
it was a nice piece of theater , but nothing more. It was good for the showbiz aspects of the game, good as a bit of (fake-ish) tradition, but the
players just soak it up and get on with the game.
Personally, I love it. I'm thinking of getting my Under 11s mini rugby team to do one
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Originally posted by iank
Any professional player actually intimidated by the Haka shouldn't be in their countries shirt IMO.
The English team should do something traditionally english. Perhaps a some men should run on carrying tables and chairs with pots of tea etc.
If I recollect correctly, I remember Scotland at Murryfield, stepping up to the Hakka and in effect challanging them back, for the life of me I cannot
remember when it was.. and IIRC there have been recent instances were the teams or individuals have been disciplined for standing up to the hakka, ie
getting to close to the nz players.
Whilst it is a piece of theatre, each team in my opinion should be allowed a resposes in whatever format they wish.
Scottish response.....................
Steve
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Originally posted by gottabedone
Scottish response.....................
Steve
That haka thing with the Scots lifting the kilts was in a comedy show yonks ago. When the Scots lifted their kilts, the New Zealanders broke down in
tears.
Cheers,
Nev.