scootz
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 11:53 AM |
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Rugby Chat... The Haka!
What do we think about it? I'm not sure any more! Is it really sporting to allow one team the opportunity to try and intimidate the other
without a right of reply!? Is it sporting at all to let one team make a 'throat slitting' gesture to another? As a Scotland fan, should
I even be allowed to have an opinion on anything to do with rugby!? 
I guess I wouldn't mind them doing it in their warm-up... but not be given special place and time to do it right in front of the opposition!
In any case... if you thought that the Haka is scary now, then you want to have seen it in 1973. TRULY TERRIFYING!!!
Haka Linky
It's Evolution Baby!
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scudderfish
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 12:14 PM |
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If I was on the opposition, I'd just chat to my team mates and pointedly ignore them. Ideally walk past them and stand behind.
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Myke 2463
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 12:26 PM |
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With a show like that they need a choreographer, Louis Spence to show them how to perform
Be Lucky Mike.
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bobinspain
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 12:29 PM |
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I've always been of the opinion that 'right of reply' should be granted in response to the Haka. The thing is after all a challenge
and meant to intimidate the opposition. If the entire opposing team dropped their DAKS and mooned at the A/Bs it would probably cause uproar, but hell
it'd be worth it.
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Lurch88
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 01:56 PM |
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How about the full England team doing a bit of Morris Dancing as a reply!
Absolutely terrifying
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 02:33 PM |
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Samoans and Tongans have an equivalent to the Haka. So, I would guess that any team could probably legitimately have such a performance.
I am not sure which version of the Haka they now do, but previously they did
Ka Mate
which according to Wikipedia
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Te Rauparaha composed Ka Mate circa 1820 as a celebration of life over death[1] after his lucky escape from pursuing Ngati Maniapoto and Waikato
enemies. He had hidden from them in a food-storage pit, and climbed back into the light to be met by a chief friendly to him - Te Whareangi (the
"hairy man" .
"
Running away from his enemies and hiding in a food pit, not quite as scary as it looks!
The performance against France was fairly compelling though.
Matt
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Ivan
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 02:35 PM |
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Who ever said that the NZrs were sporting - if any other team did anything half as intimidating to them there would be a national outcry - I think
that the Boks should do a Zulu wardance in reply and I am suree the Brits could come up withsomething Pictish
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 02:45 PM |
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who cares, its all part of the sport
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 03:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
What do we think about it? I'm not sure any more! Is it really sporting to allow one team the opportunity to try and intimidate the other
without a right of reply!? Is it sporting at all to let one team make a 'throat slitting' gesture to another? As a Scotland fan, should
I even be allowed to have an opinion on anything to do with rugby!?
I guess I wouldn't mind them doing it in their warm-up... but not be given special place and time to do it right in front of the opposition!
In any case... if you thought that the Haka is scary now, then you want to have seen it in 1973. TRULY TERRIFYING!!!
Haka Linky
Truly terrifying?
That wouldn't have frightened my granny off her commode.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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scootz
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 03:59 PM |
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at that half-assed effort of 1973. You'd think they'd have cracked it 67 years after it's inception to the All-Black match
preparations!!!
It's Evolution Baby!
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bobinspain
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 04:26 PM |
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Could always go in for some taunting, French style. Check out 'Monty Python French taunting' on Youtube. "Go away or I will fart in
your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries.'
Classic !
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iank
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| posted on 25/9/11 at 04:34 PM |
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Any professional player actually intimidated by the Haka shouldn't be in their countries shirt IMO.
It's just there for the TV and tradition to be honest.
Though a Morris dance is an inspired comeback.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Rod Ends
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 posted on 25/9/11 at 04:37 PM |
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Frighten them with some Military Campness!
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TimEllershaw
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| posted on 26/9/11 at 01:40 PM |
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There was an inteview with Martin Johnson in a Lions tour a few years ago where he talked about it. His view, and the view of most players, was that
it was a nice piece of theater , but nothing more. It was good for the showbiz aspects of the game, good as a bit of (fake-ish) tradition, but the
players just soak it up and get on with the game.
Personally, I love it. I'm thinking of getting my Under 11s mini rugby team to do one
http://www.teenagecancertrust.org/
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TimEllershaw
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| posted on 26/9/11 at 01:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
Any professional player actually intimidated by the Haka shouldn't be in their countries shirt IMO.
Too True,
Is it interesting to see what gets to players in the build up to a game and seeing if affects them once the whistle blows. Just think of all the
20stone Welsh brick sh?? houses you have seen blubbing like a baby when they hear 70,000 people in the Mellinium stadium signing Land of My Fathers.
http://www.teenagecancertrust.org/
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Irony
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| posted on 26/9/11 at 01:58 PM |
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The English team should do something traditionally english. Perhaps a some men should run on carrying tables and chairs with pots of tea etc.
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aka Keith
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| posted on 26/9/11 at 02:33 PM |
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If I recollect correctly, I remember Scotland at Murryfield, stepping up to the Hakka and in effect challanging them back, for the life of me I cannot
remember when it was.. and IIRC there have been recent instances were the teams or individuals have been disciplined for standing up to the hakka, ie
getting to close to the nz players.
Whilst it is a piece of theatre, each team in my opinion should be allowed a resposes in whatever format they wish.
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gottabedone
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| posted on 26/9/11 at 04:19 PM |
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Scottish response.....................
Steve
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iank
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| posted on 26/9/11 at 05:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gottabedone
Scottish response.....................
Steve
Someone at the ad agency had been watching Carry on up the Kyber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8atKXFZefA&feature=player_detailpage#t=329s
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 26/9/11 at 05:51 PM |
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That haka thing with the Scots lifting the kilts was in a comedy show yonks ago. When the Scots lifted their kilts, the New Zealanders broke down in
tears.
Cheers,
Nev.
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