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black.viper

posted on 16/5/17 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
Compare speed with and without windscreen

Hi,

I compare speed with and without windscreen. Measure is made by 10Hz Datalogger Quartz818XT.

kitcar - Tiger Cate E1, Duratec engine (GSXR TB, Camshaft 284°), 205/60 R13 Falken tyres, sierra lsd diff 3,92, gearbox T9 std




and here is graph:



I hope it will help someone in making decisions :-) especially on trackdays ...

max speed with windscreen was 205 kmh (127 mph)

max speed without windscreen was 216 kmh (134 mph)





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ElmrPhD

posted on 16/5/17 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
Cool. Thanks!
Always nice to get some empirical data!

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loggyboy

posted on 16/5/17 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
How many runs did you compare?
Did you check in different directions to compare to with/against wind.





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black.viper

posted on 16/5/17 at 12:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
How many runs did you compare?
Did you check in different directions to compare to with/against wind.


:-) I needed measure difference only

It was a same time and day - now wind, one direction only, flat terrain, one run only with each spec

I was interested in what is real difference between noscreen and with





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SteveWallace

posted on 16/5/17 at 01:48 PM Reply With Quote
Nice data.

I've often wondered about that as I've been thinking about getting a windscreen for my Viento to make it more drivable under day to day conditions, as it would be nice not to have to wear a helmet all the time. For all practical purposes then, unless you are pushing hard on a track, it makes next to no difference





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Benzine

posted on 16/5/17 at 02:08 PM Reply With Quote
Good idea. Data set is tiny though, would be good to see a lot more runs
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SteveWallace

posted on 16/5/17 at 02:27 PM Reply With Quote
It might be a small data set and a good scientist should always repeat their experiment, but the results are very much as you might predict and he should be commended for doing it. The windscreen increases drag, but this isn't very noticeable until you get to high speeds as drag force is a function of the speed squared. The curves look as you might expect except that the x-axis is off a little (or he can accelerate from 0-110 kmh in zero seconds )





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SteveRST

posted on 16/5/17 at 02:59 PM Reply With Quote
Yep, interesting data even if limited scope. Thanks for sharing.
So basically you're not seeing the increased drag make any noticeable different until speed of 160 km/h (100mph) or more.






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loggyboy

posted on 16/5/17 at 04:08 PM Reply With Quote
I recall doing quite a few test when we first past our tests in my mates, the difference between windows up and down on tintops (850cc mini and mk1 fiesta 1.1) and both showed a distinct 10mph difference.





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black.viper

posted on 17/5/17 at 08:28 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveWallace
It might be a small data set and a good scientist should always repeat their experiment, but the results are very much as you might predict and he should be commended for doing it. The windscreen increases drag, but this isn't very noticeable until you get to high speeds as drag force is a function of the speed squared. The curves look as you might expect except that the x-axis is off a little (or he can accelerate from 0-110 kmh in zero seconds )


Sorry, now I change x axis for right timing :-) and cut graph for better display.





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