Moorron
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 posted on 30/6/08 at 10:44 AM |
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Dax V's Indy
Morning lads.
I have an odd question that I can’t be arsed to research myself but you lot may know. Out of all the sevens I think the Dax rush looks the best by
far, it looks lower, wider and more aggressive then any of the others. Why is this, I can’t put my finger on it or is it just that it’s lower and
wider?
To me the things I can see are
1, rear arches they look wider and are more curved. Maybe positioned higher up so the top of them end up flush with the rear tub.
2, front arches look very thin, or have little rolled edge to them
3, headlights and mounting
4, rear roll hoop is usually sloped on the passenger’s side.
5, most have split rims on.
What else is there?
I love my Indy, it’s a great car but I just can’t help looking at a Dax and seeing how much more brute it looks. I wanted to know what differences
there are ‘just’ incase I swapped some bits to make a hybrid.
PS, I am not thinking of selling up.
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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omega0684
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 10:54 AM |
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Its just cuz Dax's are just F*****in awesome!
no need to get techincal!
mind you i am slightly one sided. seriously though, the aggresive stance on the road is due to the 14" rear wheel arches! i think the closest
ive seen to that is 11" on the mk & westys. the arches are ever so slightly slanted as well which helps with the beafy look.
 
best shot ive got of the rear arch, if only they sold burgers as fat as those arches at Maccy d's , i changed the front arches for some carbon
fibre ones as i thought that they were a little too thin and i lost one out on a blast once
[Edited on 30/6/08 by omega0684]
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Agriv8
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 10:58 AM |
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some have 255 ruber on the rear 205 front .
They use Standard shafts and diff ( Dedion - mostly ) so rear track must be similar.
I was very close to buying a dax but could not fit in the LWB.
Oh i belive fitting the rear arches is fun 
There are quite a few DAxers on here so I am sure they will correct me.
regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 11:10 AM |
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surely the main difference is the price?
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Mave
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 11:11 AM |
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I agree, and think it is because the shape of the bodywork contains more horizontal lines (bonnet, nose and scuttle "flatter" on top, hole
in nose more rectangular in shape.
That's why I used the contours of the Dax bonnet to create the custom bodywork on my Indy. And added Rush front and rear arches. Still I
don't have the exact same wide feeling when I look at it, but I'm sure it's because of the relatively narrow nose on mine.
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garage19
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 11:18 AM |
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Thats the best looking Indy...infact seven i've ever seen.
Can we have some more details.
Do you still have the molds? How was the windscreen constructed?
On the topic of DAXs they do look good but they always seem to have very silly roll bars that would offer little of no protection in the event of a
roll.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 11:31 AM |
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they don't have to have that roll bar
you can order them with symetrical ones (like mine - see my avitar) or the RAC spec ones and you can also add the braces / side intrusion bars
the wide rear wheels are 
I've got 9"x16" (ET0) with 245/45's for mine
quote:
DIMENSIONS:
Length - 3310mm (or 3385mm in extended wheelbase form)
Width - 1855mm, with wide rear wheels
Width - 1795mm, with narrower rear wheel option
Height - 1020mm
Wheelbase - 2310mm (or 2385mm in extended wheelbase form)
Front Track - wheel centreline to wheel centreline - 1496mm
Rear Track - wheel centreline to wheel centreline 1530mm (with 9"wide x 16"dia. wheels)
Rear Track - 1511mm (with 8.5"wide x 16"dia. wheels)
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garage19
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 11:38 AM |
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Just for reference my Indy has a rear width of 1660mm with 7" wide 32mm offset 15" cossie wheels.
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Mave
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 11:43 AM |
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@garage19: details can be found on my website clicky
But in short; windscreen was custommade (slightly curved). Mould of nose is still alive, but I'm considering making a new (better) mould by
pulling it of this nose. If I don't sell the car this summer.
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Rallye_Mark
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 12:37 PM |
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Those are the exact rear wings im looking for, my car will be running 8 inch wide compomotive ML's which have an offest of -12, and when I
fitted them to Macspeedy's Locost the other day they poked out about 2inch to the end of the tread and 3 inches to the furthest out point.
Are these available from the Dax website?
Cheers Mark
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 01:11 PM |
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Dax don't do web orders - just phone and ask for Simon... bear in mind they do 2 different width arches - wide and very wide! By the way, neither
are cheap!
I think the Dax looks great as a package, mess with any of the bits and the whole thing falls apart - the lights and front mudguards and everything
adds up and shouldn't be messed with!!! (IMHO!)
 
Description
Yes - it needs either more spacers, bigger wheels or the 'narrow' arches....
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
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Rallye_Mark
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 01:22 PM |
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What width are the wide and very wide ones? And roughly what kind of price are they?
Cheers Mark
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indykid
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 01:39 PM |
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the biggest difference to the overall perception of a dax to me comes from it having no kink in the side panel. it's a flat side panel from the
nosecone to the back panel.
it's not to my taste, making it look too bulky, but it is a big part of its aesthetic impact. the cycle wings however are the nicest on the
market closely follwed by csr ones imho.
tom
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 02:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
Yes - it needs either more spacers, bigger wheels or the 'narrow' arches....
Chris, how wide are your rear wheels and what offset ?
[Edited on 30/6/08 by mcerd1]
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neilj37
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 02:12 PM |
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I like the look of the Dax but still cannot work out the point of the sloped roll bars on the Dax as they do not seem to serve any purpose.
Would hate to be involved in an accident as a passenger.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 02:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by neilj37
I like the look of the Dax but still cannot work out the point of the sloped roll bars on the Dax as they do not seem to serve any purpose.
they are just like that because some people like the look of them
but you don't have to have it
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/mcerd1/Dax/IMG_3694.jpg
-Robert
[Edited on 30/6/08 by mcerd1]
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 03:33 PM |
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quote:
Chris, how wide are your rear wheels and what offset ?
235 on the back, the 'wide' arches... can't tell you more than that as its just been taken away on a trailer to begin a new
life......
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
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mcerd1
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 03:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
quote:
Chris, how wide are your rear wheels and what offset ?
235 on the back, the 'wide' arches... can't tell you more than that as its just been taken away on a trailer to begin a new
life......
Chris
I'll count myself lucky that I should have just enough space for my next project and the Dax (there is no way I'll ever sell mine)
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iiyama
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 03:44 PM |
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I have moulds for the dax arches, front and rear, also bonnet scoop, dash, centre console, transmission tunnel, kick plates and single housings for
95mm dia lights.
Can produce the above in pre-preg carbon or glass. Dont do wet lay or gel coats though!
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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iiyama
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 03:46 PM |
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Youve sold it Chris? Wow that didnt take long! Get what you wanted?
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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Mix
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 04:22 PM |
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Hi
I'm looking for rear arches that wide also if anyone out there is producing them.
Sorry for the hijack
Regards Mick
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Rallye_Mark
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 08:54 PM |
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Same I'm looking for 14inch wide arches or perhaps slightly bigger, what would the dimensions and price be?
Cheers Mark
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Liam
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| posted on 30/6/08 at 10:49 PM |
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So iiyama - can you produce dax-style arches but with straight/parallel mounting faces for our locost chassis? In case anyone doesn't know the
dax chassis tapers inwards from the back of the 'doors' all the way to the back of the chassis (just as it tapers inwards from that widest
point all the way to the front too), so standard dax arches would need some chopping and re-flanging to fit on a parallel sided locost chassis.
Also, when you say you dont do wet layup/gelcoat, what does that mean they end up looking like? Do they need some finishing if you want them to be
smooth and painted? Got any photos?
Cheers,
Liam
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iiyama
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| posted on 1/7/08 at 06:46 AM |
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Sorry guys, can only replicate the originals which are indeed tapered.
Finishes will be gloss carbon or unfunshed glass that can be sprayed to match the colour of your car.
Havent got any pics at the moment but should have within the next few weeks, but be warned that they wont be locost! Both glass and carbon components
are made from pre-preg. Other components can be seen here:-
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=92008
Ian
[Edited on 1/7/08 by iiyama]
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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:{THC}:YosamiteSam
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| posted on 2/7/08 at 05:02 AM |
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the 255 rear tyres use 10" wide rims - but the tyres in 15" are £242 each!!!!!!! mine are away now getting narrowed = they are too wide
for the weight - think why a camel has wide feet in the desert - so it dont sink - well same applies to car tyres - in the wet its not much grip if
wide and specially light it is worse..
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