NS Dev
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| posted on 17/5/10 at 09:38 PM |
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no simple answer on this
its definitely NOT a case of instant death with 2k, but equally you really don't want to breathe it in!!
we use a lot of 2k
its a pain in the ass. Airfed masks are not great fun to wear, the fumes during cure are MUCH more harmful than what comes off during spraying, and if
you run the extraction during cure then you just up the risk of dust (bearing in mind we don't have a megabucks booth.
Painting celly in the old days was much easier!
have to learn it all again in waterbased next!!
One for Mark Allanson, what blowers are there that don't consume stupid amounts of expensive compressed air, but don't throw dust up???
Must be something surely other than the compressed air vortex blowers........
[Edited on 17/5/10 by NS Dev]
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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oadamo
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| posted on 18/7/10 at 07:25 PM |
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2k might be bad for you but its the only paint your going to get a nice finish the diy way as ive found out, all you need is a good mask thats speced
to what your sparying you dont need an air feed mask DO NOT USE a cheap dust mask. cellulose is ok but a pain in the ass to get right and 90% of the
time looks shit.
heres a car ive just sprayed with 2k in a garage with a proper mask for the job.
adam
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splitrivet
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| posted on 30/9/10 at 02:26 PM |
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Its a sad fact when your young and a bit daft you take risks and do things that when your an old buzzard you will surely come to regret as they will
come back to haunt you big style.
Smoking, working with asbestos, in my case using freon gas like compressed air ( 4 of my old work mates dead of the big c before their time) were all
at one time pronounced harmless. However 2 pack has always come with a warning, to be aware of the dangers at least puts the onus on you and your
common sense.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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flak monkey
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| posted on 4/12/11 at 08:39 PM |
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I am going to be spraying a lot of 2k soon when I do the body on my Camaro... 1k clear is crap by all accounts, as is 1k hi-build.
There are some non-iso 2k paints available but they are massively expensive. House of Kolor are the main people. This is the stuff you see them
spraying on American Hotrod just wearing normal masks. But the prices are enough to put you off...
However I have looked into the equipment needed and an air fed mask and 3 stage filter system (with Coalescing filter) can be run off a piston type
compressor. Will need it's own 3hp compressor just for the mask though. Total cost is around £500 by the time you have a S/H compressor too. I
have all the other gear anyway.
I am currently working with a non-iso epoxy primer/sealer by a company called Jotun. Still wearing a proper 3M mask to spray it though as its bloody
potent stuff. However it sets hard as nails and its much better than anything 1k that I have ever used.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 28/5/13 at 12:25 PM |
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I've had no end of trouble with water based paints - finish is fine and colour match was OK but it didn't last 12 months and became porous
fairly quickly. I sprayed 2K on the wings (paint supplier was very cagey about supplying it to me and pointed out that there's legislation about
how and where it can be sprayed and that they'd be in trouble if they were found out - they would only supply it if I promised I had an air-fed
mask). Problem is I only have a driveway in which to spray, so I stopped using it and gave up and went back to water based but still need a lacquer
which defeats the purpose. The finish with 2K is so much easier to achieve. I've reached the point now where I'm tempted to just hand it
over to a proper body shop and save myself the hassle.
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Jimmy-boy
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| posted on 6/2/14 at 08:55 PM |
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don't worry about 2Pak its good stuff 
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TheHighlander123
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| posted on 9/4/16 at 08:52 AM |
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Painted my E46 M3 white using it.
Used a crap mask as I was too lazy to go and get a decent one, after laying the first coat on head was thumping and had a sore chest.
Decided it was best to get a good mask haha.
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sprintB+
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| posted on 9/4/16 at 09:24 AM |
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On this subject safety is paramount, why risk it? I have been in and around heavy engineering for 50 years. Welding and fabricating Ships, Nuclear
subs and power stations, associated machinery right through to kit car chassis etc. paying the price now, air fed mask 15 years back was about 20
years to late. As an old dog speaking, please take care of your health.
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axle
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| posted on 24/9/22 at 01:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Airhead
Hi all
I just wanted to get your opinions on this:
Everybody shudders and gawps in horror if 2 PAK paint is mentioned, portents of doom and the end of the world are proclaimed, strong men pale and go
weak at the knees and the earth shakes.
So I thought I'd look into it and found the HSE COSHH sheet on the stuff, it just says contact should be minimal and that there is a low risk of
ashma.
SO what's the hype about?
Stay away from it I had a very bad experience, had me and on the family edge when I had to be admitted to hospital . I shall not go into details
,Please do not go near it without proper equipment
Regards Axle
IVA passed 1st time thanks to the Forum members.
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adithorp
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| posted on 24/9/22 at 02:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by axle
quote:
Originally posted by Airhead
Hi all
I just wanted to get your opinions on this:
Everybody shudders and gawps in horror if 2 PAK paint is mentioned, portents of doom and the end of the world are proclaimed, strong men pale and go
weak at the knees and the earth shakes.
So I thought I'd look into it and found the HSE COSHH sheet on the stuff, it just says contact should be minimal and that there is a low risk of
ashma.
SO what's the hype about?
Stay away from it I had a very bad experience, had me and on the family edge when I had to be admitted to hospital . I shall not go into details
,Please do not go near it without proper equipment
Seeing as it's over 12yrs since they wrote that I suspect they've either worked it out or died from it 
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 28/9/22 at 08:39 AM |
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Worth noting that the HSE pages on it point out that water based paints can be cyanate containing too...
https://www.hse.gov.uk/mvr/bodyshop/isocyanates.htm
[Edited on 28/9/22 by coyoteboy]
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