Printable Version | Subscribe | Add to Favourites
New Topic New Poll New Reply
Author: Subject: Shorter inlet manifold?
mattjhunt

posted on 20/11/08 at 07:38 AM Reply With Quote
Shorter inlet manifold?

Got a set of webers on my crossflow that wont fit under the bonnet, rather than cut the bonnet people have suggested getting a shorter inlet manifold.

Anyone know of any downsides to this?

Anyone know of a source of a cheap second hand one? (Ebay have none).

Cheers.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Mr Whippy

posted on 20/11/08 at 07:43 AM Reply With Quote
shorter ones produce slightly lower torque, apparently but if that is really an issue on a light weight 7 is doubtful

will still be several times more than what comes out of a BEC





[Edited on 20/11/08 by Mr Whippy]





Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
dubstar_04

posted on 20/11/08 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
The torque isn't less its just lower in the rev range.

The length of the manifold runner from the atmosphere or plenum to the back of the valve affects at what point the peak power is realised in the engine speed range.

The reason for this (If anyone is interested) is because when the valve closes the flow pressure in the manifold is bounced off the back of the valve and returns to the entrance of the carb or the air plenum. Once the pressure wave reaches the atmosphere or plenum where the pressure is less than in the tract the the pressure in the tract turns negative causing ambient air to be drawn in. this then sends a pressure wave back towards the valve.

The point at which the optimum power is achieved corresponds with the engine speed when the inward pressure wave is synchronized with the opening of the valve and the wave continues into the cylinder.

I have all the calcs to make relevant callculations somewhere if you need them.

cheers,

Dan

[Edited on 20/11/08 by dubstar_04]

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Mr Whippy

posted on 20/11/08 at 09:08 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the clarification





Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
PaulBuz

posted on 20/11/08 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
Nothing to do with inlet manifolds.
Just had to say, LOVE the avatar whippy!





ATB
Paul

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
dubstar_04

posted on 20/11/08 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
Thats me on the left!!

I don't have a BEC, i'm just a nancy!!

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
blakep82

posted on 20/11/08 at 07:30 PM Reply With Quote
i'd be interested in calculators to design manifolds please





________________________

IVA manual link http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?type=RESOURCES&itemId=1081997083

don't write OT on a new thread title, you're creating the topic, everything you write is very much ON topic!

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
PerS

posted on 21/11/08 at 09:32 AM Reply With Quote
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/runnertorquecalc.html

//Per





Per

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
martyn_16v

posted on 21/11/08 at 09:46 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dubstar_04
The torque isn't less its just lower in the rev range.


Higher, a shorter intake will push the resonant frequencies up.






View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member

New Topic New Poll New Reply


go to top






Website design and SEO by Studio Montage

All content © 2001-16 LocostBuilders. Reproduction prohibited
Opinions expressed in public posts are those of the author and do not necessarily represent
the views of other users or any member of the LocostBuilders team.
Running XMB 1.8 Partagium [© 2002 XMB Group] on Apache under CentOS Linux
Founded, built and operated by ChrisW.