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posted on 12/2/10 at 10:50 PM Reply With Quote
Bach Roadster : Atom-style BEC

www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-86-xI66So
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Miks15

posted on 12/2/10 at 10:59 PM Reply With Quote
i must say im not a fan
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Paradoxia0

posted on 12/2/10 at 11:08 PM Reply With Quote
I like the concept...

I think it needs a bit more "substance" though. I know it is supposed to be minimal, but that is more unfinished!





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Peteff

posted on 13/2/10 at 12:04 AM Reply With Quote
It looks all out of proportion.





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D Beddows

posted on 13/2/10 at 12:51 AM Reply With Quote
on a related note......why is it that most Atoms/Atom type cars you see are driven by people who feel the need to dress up like that Stig bloke....... bit sad no?






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posted on 13/2/10 at 06:28 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
on a related note......why is it that most Atoms/Atom type cars you see are driven by people who feel the need to dress up like that Stig bloke....... bit sad no?


I think you might find that the lack of bodywork and windscreen causes you to a) get cold & b) dig stones out of your eyes and face.

I like the minimal engineering, but it would never be allowed on UK roads due to lack of mud guards and too many projections.
Also the front wishbones do look kinda weird (angles) and look a bit undersized considering two people to be carried.
It obviously handles well considering how he chucks it about.
I'm sure like all our cars it will evolve.
Well done for attempting such a project and getting it on the road.






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posted on 13/2/10 at 08:51 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
on a related note......why is it that most Atoms/Atom type cars you see are driven by people who feel the need to dress up like that Stig bloke....... bit sad no?


I think you might find that the lack of bodywork and windscreen causes you to a) get cold & b) dig stones out of your eyes and face.

I like the minimal engineering, but it would never be allowed on UK roads due to lack of mud guards and too many projections.
Also the front wishbones do look kinda weird (angles) and look a bit undersized considering two people to be carried.
It obviously handles well considering how he chucks it about.
I'm sure like all our cars it will evolve.
Well done for attempting such a project and getting it on the road.



good point
Wonder if mr bedows will care to comment on my dressing up with a Musto high performance offshore sailing jacket and trousers in order for me to drive to Glasgow twice in the last week to pick up various bits for my cars at temps nearing 1 degree airtemp + a 70 mph windchill factored in......... winter sevening hardcore.....






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D Beddows

posted on 13/2/10 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
Depends if you were wearing sensible clothes for what you were doing or a white nomex race suit and a Simpson Bandit helmet...... lol






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posted on 13/2/10 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
Its owibal, you'd need to wear a full face so folks couldnt recognise you.





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ReMan

posted on 13/2/10 at 11:58 AM Reply With Quote
Good work, but the spindlyness of the styling doesnt do it for me
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gottabedone

posted on 13/2/10 at 01:27 PM Reply With Quote
It will look good when he puts some bodywork on it
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jacko

posted on 13/2/10 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
It looks crap
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Alan B

posted on 13/2/10 at 03:10 PM Reply With Quote
First of all every credit for getting it built and driving. However there are a few things that look somewhat under engineered.....the rockers (bellcranks) look like they are just waiting to bend...the whole chassis looks a bit flimsy too...as Martin said the top wishbone angles look way off what you'd expect...could be they have done a great job with the geometry, I could be completely wrong.
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Doug68

posted on 14/2/10 at 09:15 AM Reply With Quote
He wont get cold he's in Texas, most of the time where he is its like being in a sauna but with mosquitoes thrown in.

If the guy intends to drive it on the street there he's got serious cajones.





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kb58

posted on 14/2/10 at 04:27 PM Reply With Quote
1. The bellcranks look dangerously weak.
2. I wonder how the suspension was designed. Front camber-gain is crazy.
2a. Of course, if the springs are stiff enough, it'll mask most suspension issues.

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Gakes

posted on 15/2/10 at 11:37 AM Reply With Quote
I think the concept is great. it does need some character though, with some bodywork. The front suspension works as we can see in the video, although as Alan B said, it probably has great geometry. We do not need lots of suspension travel and I think thats what the owner had in mind.

The bellcranks do need some extra beef though.

Well done, its all just improvement from here on....

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Alan B

posted on 15/2/10 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
No I said it "could" have great geometry ...implying that I'd be very surprised if it did.....
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posted on 27/2/10 at 05:35 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Doug68
He wont get cold he's in Texas, most of the time where he is its like being in a sauna but with mosquitoes thrown in.

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Guess I should tell my Texas Mate that.

I'll just wait for him to come inside and take a break from shoveling the snow first ;-)





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posted on 27/2/10 at 05:42 PM Reply With Quote
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nitram38

posted on 27/2/10 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
My guess is that it is fine fine for smooth off road tarmac surfaces but on a road, (in the uk) it will do about 5 miles before it needs a new chassis!
Especially after our winter and the potholes!

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