jonabonospen
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 01:45 AM |
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What's the latest bike engine people are going for?
So its been 2 years since I started my Mac#1 Worx ZX10R build and I just wondered 2 years on, what is the engine of choice for kits now?
Any kits now promoting anything other than CBR1000 Fireblade, ZX10R, Hayabusa, or R1 ?
Anyone starting to actively promote anything using ZZR1400, S1000RR, Aprilia RSVR Mille ?
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Rosco86
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 06:47 AM |
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interesting topic, im building a bec, and i think im going for a zx10-r, not really sure why and if its the best choice though
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daniel mason
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 07:34 AM |
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On the road, the hayabusa has the best character. More torque,less revs etc.
As a track/race focused car the modern blade seems to be the best bet!
Although nearly all the top hillclimb guys and sprinters in the <1100 cc class use the gsxr 1000 as do jedi in their race cars. These are all mid
engined though and in same orientation as the bike!
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hkp57
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 08:36 AM |
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Iam to far into my build with a Hayabusa but I would love to have tried the engine out of my road bike, it's a Honda VFR1200, V4 layout and
shaft drive already. The sports tourer version comes with 170BHP and loads of torque as standard.
It has the Honda variable valve timing so it's a mild mannered torquey engine until 6000rpm then all hell lets loose.
The bit I would love to have tried is the DCT gearbox it comes with which stands for duel clutch transmission which is a 6 speed flappy paddle gearbox
with traction control all built in.
You can run it in three modes, full auto just press the gas and go, sports mode when it will hold onto the gear further up the rev range and finally
full clutch less manual on two buttons. It even has an auto blip on the down shifts as standard.
 
VFR1200
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Fleet
SKC Raptor R - Hayabusa
Toyota C-HR Hybrid Limited Edition
Honda VFR1200 CrossTourer
DCT
Marlin Roadster 1800
Mercedes Vito 116 Sport
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MK9R
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 08:44 AM |
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Bit of a thread steal, but how do you find the VFR, toying with the idea of one myself. Currently on a triumph sprint st 1050. Keep goin back to
triumphs triple as it's so torque and ideal for the road commute, fast in any gear and wheelies for fun. I like the ST as it's a sporty
sports tourer, what would you class the vfr as?? I had a vfr800 vtec and really liked it, but it just didn't have the grunt of the triumph 1050
engine.
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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hkp57
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 08:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
Bit of a thread steal, but how do you find the VFR, toying with the idea of one myself. Currently on a triumph sprint st 1050. Keep goin back to
triumphs triple as it's so torque and ideal for the road commute, fast in any gear and wheelies for fun. I like the ST as it's a sporty
sports tourer, what would you class the vfr as?? I had a vfr800 vtec and really liked it, but it just didn't have the grunt of the triumph 1050
engine.
I have the crosstourer which is the adventure class like the BMW GS1200 but I have also driven the Sports tourer and the only thing stopping me
getting it was it was more sports than tourer in the riding position.
But it was the first bike that has ever swayed me over to buying a Honda they truly are a great machine.
Fleet
SKC Raptor R - Hayabusa
Toyota C-HR Hybrid Limited Edition
Honda VFR1200 CrossTourer
DCT
Marlin Roadster 1800
Mercedes Vito 116 Sport
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fesycresy
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 08:56 AM |
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I went through the same dilemma, ended up choosing a duratec 
I was going to use the ZZR1400, but if I had the cash for further engine work (i.e. turbo) I would stick with a Gen 2 'busa.
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Autoflock Motorsport
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 10:32 AM |
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very interesting thread, it was only yesterday a few friends and i were discussing this very topic, had a look at the zzr1400 engines and they have a
lot of poke for the money, over 100ft lb and 200bhp i think and they can be had for under 2k which makes them a bit cheaper than the busa.
Honda vfr engine sounds very interesting too
Kind regards
Raj
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=183445
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CosKev3
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 10:50 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
Iam to far into my build with a Hayabusa but I would love to have tried the engine out of my road bike, it's a Honda VFR1200, V4 layout and
shaft drive already. The sports tourer version comes with 170BHP and loads of torque as standard.
It has the Honda variable valve timing so it's a mild mannered torquey engine until 6000rpm then all hell lets loose.
The bit I would love to have tried is the DCT gearbox it comes with which stands for duel clutch transmission which is a 6 speed flappy paddle gearbox
with traction control all built in.
You can run it in three modes, full auto just press the gas and go, sports mode when it will hold onto the gear further up the rev range and finally
full clutch less manual on two buttons. It even has an auto blip on the down shifts as standard.
VFR1200
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Would be great to see one tried in a bec.
The extra room for big feet with no clutch pedal would be great! 
Thinking about recent topics on bec's spinning around and damaging the engines due to them turning the starter in reverse, would this still be a
problem with this set up?
With no clutch to pull in to cut the drive would it spin the starter backwards?
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CosKev3
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 10:52 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jonabonospen
So its been 2 years since I started my Mac#1 Worx ZX10R build and I just wondered 2 years on, what is the engine of choice for kits now?
Any kits now promoting anything other than CBR1000 Fireblade, ZX10R, Hayabusa, or R1 ?
Anyone starting to actively promote anything using ZZR1400, S1000RR, Aprilia RSVR Mille ?
Is your car finished? Or still sat at Mac1?
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jwhatley
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 12:04 PM |
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Has anyone thought about an S1000RR engine yet?
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adithorp
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 12:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jwhatley
Has anyone thought about an S1000RR engine yet?
I'd heard the issue was overcoming all the electrinics.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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MK9R
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 12:23 PM |
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And the price!
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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jonabonospen
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 01:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Is your car finished? Or still sat at Mac1?
Yes unfortunately
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OliilO
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 01:32 PM |
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Sorry to hear that. What is it waiting for?
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jonabonospen
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 01:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by OliilO
Sorry to hear that. What is it waiting for?
Just waiting for them to put the finishing touches to it really and get it in and through its test. Needs last of plumbing / cooling putting together
now all parts are there, exhaust making, seats fitting, and then just setting up and thats about it really.
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daniel mason
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 05:21 PM |
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And a flatshifter!
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jonabonospen
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| posted on 22/12/14 at 06:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
And a flatshifter!
Oh yeah and that
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Rosco86
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 06:05 PM |
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I'm going for a zx10-r 2010 engine, I've tried to read up but can't seem to find much, it's for a road and track car, think
I'm doing the right thing, from what I can work out a billet baffled sump will sort any oil problems,
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Sam_68
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 06:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hkp57...I would love to have tried the engine out of my road bike.
VFR1200
It's a big ask, I know, but is there any possibility of you taking a reasonably accurate measurement of the overall width of that unit?
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hkp57
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 07:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam_68
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57...I would love to have tried the engine out of my road bike.
VFR1200
It's a big ask, I know, but is there any possibility of you taking a reasonably accurate measurement of the overall width of that unit?
I can but not for 4 months, I am away at work just now
Fleet
SKC Raptor R - Hayabusa
Toyota C-HR Hybrid Limited Edition
Honda VFR1200 CrossTourer
DCT
Marlin Roadster 1800
Mercedes Vito 116 Sport
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Sam_68
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 07:18 PM |
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OK, cool - thanks. I'll give you a prod in April, if I remember!
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jacko
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 09:51 PM |
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Would the car have to be left hand steering with that engine ? looking where the prop shaft comes of the box
Jacko
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Sam_68
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 10:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jacko
Would the car have to be left hand steering with that engine? l
I was thinking mid-engined, coupled directly to an offset differential, possibly?
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 7/2/15 at 12:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by jwhatley
Has anyone thought about an S1000RR engine yet?
I'd heard the issue was overcoming all the electrinics.
And the gearbox is reportedly weak.
Some of the seadoo engines look good if you could get a gearbox to fit. A friend of mine has just sold his 250hp beast
Jim
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