Peteff
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 03:37 PM |
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Suzuki carry 1300 van, already has a rear wheel drive gearbox and revs like a mad thing.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Deckman001
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 03:44 PM |
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I'm another suggester of the Nissan 1.3 from a micra, I had to 'fill up' the in-law's car for her and was pleasantly surprised
with the car's 'go' , good and revy as well !!
Jason
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johnston
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 07:53 PM |
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what about the 1.4 106 pug or the 1.4 puma
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nick205
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| posted on 26/6/08 at 03:07 PM |
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Didn't some of the 750mc race series specify the Fiat FIRE engine as the replacement for the Coventry Climax unit?
I remember talking to a 750mc guy at Autosport earlier in the year who painted a very good picture for the little Fiat unit. Very compact and one man
manouverable with good tuning potential too.
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iank
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| posted on 26/6/08 at 03:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Didn't some of the 750mc race series specify the Fiat FIRE engine as the replacement for the Coventry Climax unit?
I remember talking to a 750mc guy at Autosport earlier in the year who painted a very good picture for the little Fiat unit. Very compact and one man
manouverable with good tuning potential too.
It replaced the reliant (robin) engine not the climax, but otherwise correct. The reliant replaced the Austin 7 engine.
Good article on tuning the 1108cc FIRE engine here:
http://www.guy-croft.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21
and
http://www.guy-croft.com/viewtopic.php?=&p=2238
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 26/6/08 at 03:49 PM |
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regardless of attitudes to Fiat cars - I think most would agree they tend to make cracking good engines...
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 26/6/08 at 05:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
Good article on tuning the 1108cc FIRE engine here:
http://www.guy-croft.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21
and
http://www.guy-croft.com/viewtopic.php?=&p=2238
Interesting that he thinks a flat power 'curve' is a good thing! That simply means your torque is decreasing at the same rate as your RPM
is increasing, nothing really special about that whatsoever IMO.
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iank
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| posted on 26/6/08 at 06:09 PM |
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Well a wide powerband means you don't fall out of the band when you change gear. So it makes it easier to drive and maybe even faster with a
required by the regs 4 speed reliant gearbox.
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Anonymous
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NS Dev
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| posted on 26/6/08 at 07:40 PM |
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I'd go with Coozer and go for one of the zetec se's.
They are yamaha designed, all alloy (actually not true, a lot of the casings are actually magnesium alloy) and great to tune, plus extremely
efficient.
1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 litres capacity, with the 1.7 having variable valve timing, there's something to suit, and a bellhousing for the type 9
is available, if not too cheap at £170 ish.
great engines
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 11:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
Well a wide powerband means you don't fall out of the band when you change gear. So it makes it easier to drive and maybe even faster with a
required by the regs 4 speed reliant gearbox.
Right, but that is dictated by the torque curve, since that what's actualy pushing you along and is why a flat torque curve is desirable. An
engine with a perfectly flat power curve would be virtually useless.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 12:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
regardless of attitudes to Fiat cars - I think most would agree they tend to make cracking good engines...
If you disregard head gaskets and ECUs that suffer from memory loss forget all the security key codes.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 12:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
I'd go with Coozer and go for one of the zetec se's.
They are yamaha designed, all alloy (actually not true, a lot of the casings are actually magnesium alloy) and great to tune, plus extremely
efficient.
1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 litres capacity, with the 1.7 having variable valve timing, there's something to suit, and a bellhousing for the type 9
is available, if not too cheap at £170 ish.
great engines
The 1.4 has no mid-range torque at all --- and compared to the Rover 1.4 it is down 23 bhp !
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 12:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
I'm another suggester of the Nissan 1.3 from a micra, I had to 'fill up' the in-law's car for her and was pleasantly surprised
with the car's 'go' , good and revy as well !!
Jason
Under estimated little engine, a lot of very cheap Micras around at auction because the trade know there is a problem with the single point injection
ones that needs a new throttlebody to fix.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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iank
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 12:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
I'm another suggester of the Nissan 1.3 from a micra, I had to 'fill up' the in-law's car for her and was pleasantly surprised
with the car's 'go' , good and revy as well !!
Jason
Under estimated little engine, a lot of very cheap Micras around at auction because the trade know there is a problem with the single point injection
ones that needs a new throttlebody to fix.
There is indeed, but it's often fixable for little effort.
http://www.micra.com.au/technical-articles/cg13de-throttle-body-resoldering-guide.php
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Anonymous
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 03:10 PM |
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hmm cant suggest anything volvo that would fit to type 9 , apart from a gutless 1.6(in an s40) which i think is a megane engine ?
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 03:53 PM |
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Rover
Looks like I should have had my parents Rover 214 when they scrapped it ,100k miles no engine issues except something to do with the front pulley.
Is it straightforward to use the standard ecu and injection when removed from donor?
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 06:22 PM |
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On the K the Front pulley and cam drive sprocket is driven by a rather inadequate "D" flat on the crank rather than a key, it can give
rise to issues if the pulley has been removed to fit an new cam belt and not fully torqued fully home.
If the pulley and sprocket is flopping around a bit the usual cure is a new pulley and sprocket and a dab of araladite where they locate on the
crank and of course some locite on the retaining bolt and washer.
This is one of the reasons for never trusting the timing marks on a Rover K when doing anything that involves removing the timing belt.
On these engine the engine has to be set at half stroke before removing the belt.
I always double check by measuring down the plug holes to check the pistons are at half stroke when the timing marks line up ie: the pistons are at
an exactly equal distance down the bore measure via the plug holes.
[Edited on 27/6/08 by britishtrident]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 06:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
Looks like I should have had my parents Rover 214 when they scrapped it ,100k miles no engine issues except something to do with the front pulley.
Is it straightforward to use the standard ecu and injection when removed from donor?
You need the cars security ECU and a fair bit of the wiring loom.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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paulf
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 08:09 PM |
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Why not use your megajolt and bike carbs?
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
Looks like I should have had my parents Rover 214 when they scrapped it ,100k miles no engine issues except something to do with the front pulley.
Is it straightforward to use the standard ecu and injection when removed from donor?
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 10:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
I'd go with Coozer and go for one of the zetec se's.
They are yamaha designed, all alloy (actually not true, a lot of the casings are actually magnesium alloy) and great to tune, plus extremely
efficient.
1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 litres capacity, with the 1.7 having variable valve timing, there's something to suit, and a bellhousing for the type 9
is available, if not too cheap at £170 ish.
great engines
The 1.4 has no mid-range torque at all --- and compared to the Rover 1.4 it is down 23 bhp !
Yes but I think you know that isn't the whole picture!!
a) use the 1600!!
b) unstrangling the intake instantly puts it ahead of the k with similar mods, sorry!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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ettore bugatti
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| posted on 28/6/08 at 01:31 PM |
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How about:
Nissan CG13DE from a Micra, or the Suzuki 1.3 16V (with Samurai tranny?), or Daihatsu (/Toyota) engines?
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 29/6/08 at 01:07 PM |
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............
Something Jap or Fiat sounds interesting , the Suzuki could already have an rwd gearbox and would probably be a fair bit lighter than a type 9.
Is a Samurai 4x4 is the main box separate?
info info info
[Edited on 29/6/08 by Surrey Dave]
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rodriguez
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| posted on 29/6/08 at 04:50 PM |
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im putting the suzuki 1.3 16v with a set of 40's on mine. should be good and revs really well. dunno wot gearbox to use tho
get it lit
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westf27
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| posted on 11/7/08 at 10:34 PM |
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briggs and stratton.Blow the grass out the side and bill the council
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akumabito
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| posted on 13/7/08 at 08:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
the 1.2 SMPI FIRE engine from a punto sporting would be a nice little unit IMHO.. 
The FIRE engines are cast iron though.
They're still very light, and come with surprisingly strong internals if you want to boost it.
A mate of mine build his own engine - 999cc turbo. It pushes 135Hp on the dyno (105 or 115 at the wheels, I don't quite remember)
He's having plenty of fun with that engine in his old Panda!
Let's see if I can dig up the thread on the Panda Club Forum..
Here it is: http://forum.fiatpandaclub.nl/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4775
133Hp max power and 162Nm from 3200 to 6000 rpm. 108Hp at the wheels.
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