woodsy
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| posted on 17/10/21 at 03:33 PM |
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Car registered incorrectly
I have found a car that i am very interested which is an MK Indy but on the log book it is registered as something completely different that i have
never heard of. The current owner has told me it has never been through an IVA test hence why it is reg'd as a different car.
It has not been MOT'd for 5 years as it has been a track car but he has offered to MOT it for me.
Should alarm bells be ringing so am i over thinking things ??
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/10/21 at 03:53 PM |
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Like all cars - you're paying a lot of money, there a lot of rogues out there, and a lot of foolish people who buy from them.
If everything isn't squeaky clean in all respects just walk away.
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 17/10/21 at 03:53 PM |
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no you don't need to worry at all,
all you have to do is: get the car, and, do an IVA on it, and register it as a Q reg...
ps if getting the car I don't think I would get the current paperwork transferred to me.
good luck...
at least you are aware of the problem, and won't just blindly use the incorrectly registered car. and if its being sold as road legal then knock
off £2000 because it's not.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 17/10/21 at 04:20 PM |
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£450 for a test  then anything it fails on and a retest at £ 90, could work out expensive 
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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adithorp
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| posted on 17/10/21 at 06:05 PM |
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RINGER!
They've taken the reg+vin from one car and stuck it on another. Illegal and possibly expensive to retrospectively rectify.
Out of idle curiosity, what is it on the v5?
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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perksy
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| posted on 17/10/21 at 07:27 PM |
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There will always be other cars...
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woodsy
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| posted on 18/10/21 at 06:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
RINGER!
They've taken the reg+vin from one car and stuck it on another. Illegal and possibly expensive to retrospectively rectify.
Out of idle curiosity, what is it on the v5?
It's down as a Borile
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Sanzomat
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| posted on 18/10/21 at 07:26 AM |
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I'd never heard of Borile but apparently it is an obscure Italian brand of motorcycles. I guess it is possible that the builder had a V5 from a
motorcycle and used that reg on the MK. Does the V5 say it is a motorcycle? If so fairly clearly ringed.
On the other hand, when registering a kit properly you do have the option to give it your own make/model for instance if it is a one off special and
maybe the original builder called it a Borile for some legitimate reason. At least it isn't registered as a Ford Sierra or a Dutton.
Is it a Q plate?
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woodsy
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| posted on 18/10/21 at 08:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Sanzomat
I'd never heard of Borile but apparently it is an obscure Italian brand of motorcycles. I guess it is possible that the builder had a V5 from a
motorcycle and used that reg on the MK. Does the V5 say it is a motorcycle? If so fairly clearly ringed.
On the other hand, when registering a kit properly you do have the option to give it your own make/model for instance if it is a one off special and
maybe the original builder called it a Borile for some legitimate reason. At least it isn't registered as a Ford Sierra or a Dutton.
Is it a Q plate?
On the log book it shows as a private/light goods ( PLG) and it's on an 07 plate
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 18/10/21 at 08:16 AM |
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Sounds like a ringer to me as well. Not had an IVA and registered, can't think of a legal reason for that to happen. Don't forget if you
buy it, try to register it or it ever gets examined you will not own the legal title to it if it is a ringer and you will lose it to the lawful owner
with no financial compensation
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woodsy
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| posted on 18/10/21 at 08:26 AM |
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Thanks for all the replies but you have all pretty much said what i had thought and i'm going to walk away from this one
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 18/10/21 at 11:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by woodsy
Thanks for all the replies but you have all pretty much said what i had thought and i'm going to walk away from this one
Good choice - I think I would tell DVLA and WMP so that someone else doesn't get caught out, stands a good chance this is someones stolen MK!
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Sarah
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| posted on 18/10/21 at 10:53 PM |
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..and maybe a link so we can see it to 
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woodsy
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| posted on 19/10/21 at 06:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Sarah
..and maybe a link so we can see it to
There was never a for sale ad , i heard about the car through a different forum
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adithorp
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| posted on 19/10/21 at 11:07 AM |
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Seems odder than the usual "scrap a knackered Dutton and put it's I.D on an MK"
Why pick an obscure Italian bike manufacturer rather than another kit maker and how do you get that then registered as a car?
Are you possitive it's not been IVA'd.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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woodsy
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| posted on 19/10/21 at 12:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Seems odder than the usual "scrap a knackered Dutton and put it's I.D on an MK"
Why pick an obscure Italian bike manufacturer rather than another kit maker and how do you get that then registered as a car?
Are you possitive it's not been IVA'd.
Yes the current owner told me never been for an IVA.
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adithorp
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| posted on 19/10/21 at 12:52 PM |
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I was just thinking there is an obscure possibility...
IF it was registered (legit) in 2007 on a new plate then it would have gone through SVA, as IVA didn't start until late 08 I think (mine was
SVA'd in May08).
Once SVA'd it could have been registered with any manufacturers name that the builder fancied, as mentioned earlier. (I know one member on here
whose vin number refers to his 50th birthday)
So you've built a toy car, why not name it after the painter of an obscure picture called "the toy car"...
https://images.app.goo.gl/R1cfSw9a2F2J7Kzr7
https://www.artfinder.com/v2/product/ilaria-the-toy-car/?preview=1
[Edited on 19/10/21 by adithorp]
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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snapper
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| posted on 21/10/21 at 07:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
no you don't need to worry at all,
all you have to do is: get the car, and, do an IVA on it, and register it as a Q reg...
ps if getting the car I don't think I would get the current paperwork transferred to me.
good luck...
at least you are aware of the problem, and won't just blindly use the incorrectly registered car. and if its being sold as road legal then knock
off £2000 because it's not.
This advise is almost criminal.
NO it is not alright and getting an IVA on a car you have bought is not easy as there is a lot of PROOF that you built it and where the parts came
from.
The fact the car has not been IVA’d means you have no idea whether it is anywhere near being compliant or road legal, I would expect the sellers MOT’s
are as dodgy as his sale.
Don’t even consider buying this vehicle it’s more dodgy than Delboys mobile phones…
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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sdh2903
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| posted on 21/10/21 at 08:28 AM |
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Surely if its had the manufacturer name changed on the v5 its either been through iva or sva? How else would you change the name? Its not like its
registered as a sierra or a dutton.
The other thing is the random name choice only tends to happen with self built from scratch like locosts or Haynes roadsters etc. If you've
shelled out for an mk indy why would you then call it something else?
Also you say it's on the v5 as an mk indy but then you say it's registered as a Borile? Whatever is on the v5 is what its registered as?
Unless the vins don't tally up?
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chillis
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| posted on 21/10/21 at 12:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
no you don't need to worry at all,
all you have to do is: get the car, and, do an IVA on it, and register it as a Q reg...
ps if getting the car I don't think I would get the current paperwork transferred to me.
good luck...
at least you are aware of the problem, and won't just blindly use the incorrectly registered car. and if its being sold as road legal then knock
off £2000 because it's not.
Its not that simple, when submitting a car for IVA you need a build history to show you built it, can the seller provide one? plus for all you know
the Indy could have been stolen so a genuine ringer
As DJ says just walk away
Never under estimate the ingenuity of an idiot!
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