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mookaloid - 13/10/08 at 08:35 PM

Having spent years ignoring threads about the various merits of various bike engines "the cbrxzy 900/100/1300 is better than the Hayabirdbusablade thingy" etc.

I find myself wondering about which bike engine to go for - yawn

So all you BEC experts out there - given a very limited budget - say under £500, which engine should i go for ?

Cheers

Mark

Howlor - 13/10/08 at 08:37 PM

Blade or Zx9 should now creep in to that budget and plentiful supply.

Steve

RichardK - 13/10/08 at 08:48 PM

big girls blouse

Andy W - 13/10/08 at 08:55 PM

zx9

Andy

mookaloid - 13/10/08 at 08:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
big girls blouse


I know, I know - it's just too embarrassing maybe I should get myself another id on here so no one knows what I'm doing.....

or maybe there's a self help group - BEC builders anonymous or something

I think I need help to keep away from the 'dark side' and .........Phil.........

RichardK - 13/10/08 at 09:01 PM

Joking apart mate is it a done deal or have you even gone and got by now. Can't wait to have a nosey

See Ya

R

Paul TigerB6 - 13/10/08 at 09:22 PM

Another vote for the ZX9R. Should get one for under £400, never mind £500. Then again you may get a cheap blade exhaust easier if building a se7en!!

mookaloid - 13/10/08 at 09:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
Another vote for the ZX9R. Should get one for under £400, never mind £500. Then again you may get a cheap blade exhaust easier if building a se7en!!


Would that include carbs and other necessary bits and pieces do you think?

Paul TigerB6 - 13/10/08 at 09:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

Would that include carbs and other necessary bits and pieces do you think?


I sold one for £350 with everything but the ECU and clocks about a year ago - a C-model. Might be better spending a little extra to get an E model as the gearbox is a bit stronger / better

[Edited on 13/10/08 by Paul TigerB6]

PAUL FISHER - 13/10/08 at 09:51 PM

Another vote for zx9 if £500 is all you have to spend tight arse

Paul TigerB6 - 13/10/08 at 09:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
Another vote for zx9 if £500 is all you have to spend tight arse


Come on thats a good budget - you know you can build 2 cars for that!!

mookaloid - 13/10/08 at 10:01 PM

Thanks for the opinions guys - particularly yours Paul

So is it worth buying a complete bike then selling off the bits I don't need?

Cheers

Mark

INDY BIRD - 13/10/08 at 10:04 PM

ZZR1100

easy get one for around £500

Just sold a car with one in good power easy to drive,

cheap as chips power,

had around 127bhp at wheels

russbost - 13/10/08 at 10:25 PM

ZZR1100 or ZX10, more power & torque than the ZX9 & cheaper.
Buy a complete bike you can checkout properly for around £800 & sell the rest on Ebay, you'll get the engine effectively for almost nothing.

StevieB - 14/10/08 at 06:27 AM

Have a look at Fazer 1000 engines - bascially the same as an R1 with a different state of tune, ut they tend to be a far bit cheaper because they don't have R1 writen on them (some have said it's actually a slightly better BEC option because it brings in the torque lower down the rev range)

Andy B - 14/10/08 at 08:59 AM

Might be worth thinking along the early blade route - my reason for suggesting this is I know of a number of RGB drivers who are upgrading to class B from C so very shortly there is going to be a load of exhaust systems, airboxes, engine packs etc on the market
Just a thought
Andy

mangogrooveworkshop - 14/10/08 at 10:53 AM

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/746388.htm

robroy - 16/10/08 at 03:11 PM

Hello everyone. I'm also in the market for a cheap bike engine to go in a front engined rear drive car project. One of my main worries is oil surge in cornering. Are any of these engines suitable with unmodified sumps?
Is there an engine that is better than the others in this respect?
Cheers

Paul TigerB6 - 16/10/08 at 03:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by robroy
Hello everyone. I'm also in the market for a cheap bike engine to go in a front engined rear drive car project. One of my main worries is oil surge in cornering. Are any of these engines suitable with unmodified sumps?
Is there an engine that is better than the others in this respect?
Cheers


Simple answer is to fit a baffle plate to the bottom of the engine, along with a small (250ml) overfill of oil.

This link relates to the Yamaha but is equally relevant to many engines

MydT9 - 19/10/08 at 10:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
Having spent years ignoring threads about the various merits of various bike engines "the cbrxzy 900/100/1300 is better than the Hayabirdbusablade thingy" etc.

I find myself wondering about which bike engine to go for - yawn

So all you BEC experts out there - given a very limited budget - say under £500, which engine should i go for ?

Cheers

Mark


What about a 1996-98 Honda Super Blackbird, 1137cc, approx 160bhp on carbs, very reliable and 15 cables to wire to start.....it doesn't get better than this !

mistergrumpy - 19/10/08 at 10:55 PM

Get yourself a blade mate. I've a ZX9 and having had the chance to work on Gavs Blade it's far simpler to get going, a lot less wires and just seems more solid.

simoto - 20/10/08 at 11:16 PM

Honda all the way, towering reliability as standard. The previous posters suggestion of the blackbird motor is compeling and i will go for one of them after sva/first blow up i reckon.
Also early blade engines are way ahead technology wise on the competition and a fair chunk lighter too iirc.