link to previous locostbuilders thread on copper fuel lines
Just wondered what people used for fuel rails.
I need a fuel rail as the bike rail isnt suitable - beyond repair !!!!
Called Jenvey and they wanted to know measurements (x-Flow inlet manifold), told them 90mm - 100mm - 90mm. Then injector cups might be a problem and
they only make them with JIC conectors.
What did eveeryone else do ??
Hi
I've bought some from here
http://www.americanv8engines.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=23&osCsid=f34354ddb0f19ca9898c894ff706051c
The plan is to thread both ends and fit hose tails, then drill holes for the injectors
Adrian
Drill holes for injectors. You will then need "cups" for the injectors, do you have a brasing tool?
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Originally posted by Major Stare
Drill holes for injectors. You will then need "cups" for the injectors, do you have a brasing tool?
There is an issue with copper pipe that some of the copper leaches into the fuel and then can get deposited on the injector. This then bungs up the
injector. It has been raised on here quite recently.
Of course the debate on how long you've got till the injector is fubar'd was inconclusive but no car manufacturer uses copper any more &
they 'invented' a new alloy to replace it. This information came from two industry sources - one being a poster on here who's i think
was a chemist working on fuel systems and the other my mate who designs fuel systems for a living.
Are you saying that copper is actualy soluable in fuel?
I'm saying that other people have said a tiny amount of copper will get leached into the fuel, this then gets deposited onto the injector.
Do a search, it was about a month ago.
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Originally posted by Major Stare
Drill holes for injectors. You will then need "cups" for the injectors, do you have a brasing tool?
here you go, don't say i'm not nice
link to previous locostbuilders thread on copper fuel lines
There's an awful lot of bunkum posted on this forum, and that bit about copper getting deposited on the injectors has got to rate near the top
for degree.
I've got a harbour full of boats near me, and every one will have copper fuel lines, as does nearly every boat in existence.
Seen the price of copper lately? That's why oem's don't use it. Plastic is cheaper than the steel, and both are way cheaper than
copper. Multiply the savings per car by a few hundred thousand per year and you'll end up with savings in the £Millions.
Also, it has been shown that copper 'can' (maybe,) develop cracks due to work hardening with time. I've never seen it happen, and the
vibration in boats would surely do this if it were to happen at all.
I use Monel(cupro/nickel) on personal stuff, and steel or aluminium alloys at work.
Cheers,
Syd.
Don't know about other cars, but i do know the BMW mini uses a special alloy that is then plastic coated - i know cause i've got 5 lines in my garage from my mate.
Probably plastic over zinc plated annealed steel.
Available from Tube & Pipe Group in Basingstoke, among other places. They supply a number of the oem suppliers.
Cheers,
Syd.
Think i'll give one of these a go as
recomended previously.
Then buy some new drill bits and make sure i have a steady hand 
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Originally posted by Major Stare
Think i'll give one of these a go as recomended previously.
Then buy some new drill bits and make sure i have a steady hand
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Originally posted by ady8077
As for drilling, a pillar drill is probably best
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As for drilling, a pillar drill is probably best