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gy351100 - 10/9/09 at 06:56 PM

Hi all
I need advise with my Mondeo diesel estate July 2000 reg
I have a broken front spring and my local parts supplier looked up the spring part No from the reg No and came up with the part no RA1067 which I purchased.
But when comparing the new part with the old part they were different.
The old part was 14mm wire diameter and 7" over all diameter, the new part was 11.5mm wire diameter and 6" overall diameter.
I asked the supplier to check the part No and they came up with the same No.
Can anyone shed any light on this.
Could it be the springs were changed on the later models?
Cheers
Keith


PS I am now without transport so I am stuffed

[Edited on 10/9/09 by gy351100]

[Edited on 10/9/09 by gy351100]


tomgregory2000 - 10/9/09 at 07:06 PM

prob wrong but you might have been given a spring for a petrol engine car(lighter front end) what about giving ford a ring tomorrow?


austin man - 10/9/09 at 07:11 PM

agree with the previous, diesels generally heavier duty. The supplier may have his parts incorrectly tagged causing a mismatch


jonesier1 - 10/9/09 at 07:36 PM

did'nt mondeo change about late 2000 to the newer shape (mk3)


gy351100 - 10/9/09 at 07:41 PM

hi

The check against the reg No through it up as a diesel estate which was correct.
I did wonder if the vehicle was on the verge of the change over to the new model but it is the old shape.
cheers
keith


iank - 10/9/09 at 07:45 PM

Found two references to RA1067 on the wibbly web

ebay link

German supplier

Both agree that it's for a 1.8TD diesel Mondeo Estate 96-00 (or the 2.5 petrol), but sadly neither have spring specs.


gy351100 - 10/9/09 at 07:51 PM

hi
Yes I have seen the ref to RA1067 on
e bay too.
I suspect they will be wrong for my car too.

cheers


iank - 10/9/09 at 08:01 PM

Well there seem to be a number of possibilities:

Your car is fitted with the wrong springs currently (either by Ford or by a garage) you'd have to hope both are unlikely. Could be due to the model change I guess but doesn't seem too likely.

RA1067 is the wrong code for your car - seems unlikely as your supplier and ebay/german site agree it's the correct code assuming you have a 1.8TD

The spring in the box is wrong, or the supplier pulled the wrong box off the shelf.

I'd go into a Ford dealer and get them to confirm the code against your reg and hopefully let you look at their RA1067 to compare.

Good luck, sounds a bit of a nightmare.


jacko - 10/9/09 at 08:24 PM

And you should renew both springs
so i was always told


Mark G - 10/9/09 at 09:14 PM

I'd hazard a guess that as your 'local parts supplier' probably deals in after market parts the spring you have won't be genuine. The thickness and diameter of the spring are irrelevent as long as the spring length and strength are the same. As Jacko says springs should be replaced in pairs, especially when they are a different make.

I'd order another spring for the other side and fit the pair.

Mark.


stevebubs - 10/9/09 at 09:56 PM

Link to Ford Parts Website here...

http://www.etis.ford.com/


austin man - 10/9/09 at 10:02 PM

I was supplied four springs for my VW by a small guy at my local factors only one of them was correct.
I asked how this happened and was advised it was the
four sprung dwarf technique


MikeRJ - 10/9/09 at 10:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by austin man
I was supplied four springs for my VW by a small guy at my local factors only one of them was correct.
I asked how this happened and was advised it was the
four sprung dwarf technique


< Groan >


gy351100 - 10/9/09 at 10:08 PM

hi
I have purchased the pair and the thickness and diameter are relevant if they don't fit.

cheers


MikeCapon - 11/9/09 at 06:56 AM

If the spring has the same open length as the other one and fits the strut then it may well be right. Apart from the open length all that matters is the rate.

The same spring rate can be acheived with a multitude of different wire diameters, numbers of coils and spring diameters. For example if a spring has more coils but a thicker wire then the rate can be the same. Or a smaller spring diameter with a thinner wire can be the same.

All you are doing when you compress a spring is bending a piece of wire. Longer wire or thinner wire equals softer rate. Shorter wire or thicker wire equals higher rate.

Just because the diameter and wire thickness are not the same does not mean that the rate is not the same.

Cheers,

Mike


gy351100 - 11/9/09 at 07:29 AM

hi
The point is being missed here.
The springs will not physically fit.
Like trying to fit a quart into pint pot!!!!
cheers


MikeCapon - 11/9/09 at 07:44 AM

What does not fit? Spring pan diameters or length?


gy351100 - 11/9/09 at 07:51 AM

hi
Diameter


MikeCapon - 11/9/09 at 08:29 AM

OK. If they are too small to even fit on the strut than they are clearly wrong. I was under the impression that only the larger OD was different.

Try here for help?