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Author: Subject: MS1 map needed urgently
lotusmadandy

posted on 22/12/11 at 04:29 PM Reply With Quote
MS1 map needed urgently

Hi all,

I have inadvertantly deleted the base map on my ms1,just when i was starting
to get somewhere with the tuning.I accidentaly pressed
the wrong button and my engine abruptly stopped.
I have inputted some rough values from an ms2 12x12 table and got it running
again but this is far from ideal.
So,can anyone send me a map that i can load up please?
Dale at Bailey motorsport very kindly sent me a map but it has a 12x12 table
so is no good.

I am running a 2.0 blacktop zetec with ms1.
Any help will be greatly appreciated,as always.

Merry christmas to all the LCB'ers

Cheers,
Andy






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mark chandler

posted on 22/12/11 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe not completely helpful, but log on to Phil's page at extra EFI and download 'extra' version of code with 12x12 tables for MS1.

You will want this anyway, so now is the time to start, it made mine much more driveable.

Do not forget if upgrading to verify the temp sensors.

Regards Mark

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big-vee-twin

posted on 22/12/11 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
You can download tuner studio for free it has base maps which can be burnt to the MS.

You can upgrade the software to full version for around £30 and then it has a full self learning/mapping mode.





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lotusmadandy

posted on 22/12/11 at 05:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
You can download tuner studio for free it has base maps which can be burnt to the MS.

You can upgrade the software to full version for around £30 and then it has a full self learning/mapping mode.




Superb.Thanks for the info,i will download it tonight.

And thanks Mark,if i i upgrade to extra code,do i not need to open up the ecu and
make some mods?

Andy






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big-vee-twin

posted on 22/12/11 at 05:46 PM Reply With Quote
Dont need hardware mods but you have to plug in a little jumper while you reload the software, which is inside but very easy to do

Go to MSExtra.com you will find the instructions

[Edited on 22/12/11 by big-vee-twin]





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lotusmadandy

posted on 22/12/11 at 05:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Dont need hardware mods but you have to plug in a little jumper while you reload the software, which is inside but very easy to do



That will be the boot jumper that i read about,when i built the ecu

Andy






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mark chandler

posted on 22/12/11 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
That's it, boot jumper this defaults everything so if you have used megatherm to set the temp sensors you will need to repeat.

Things change a little bit in the config dashboard as extra features appear so take 10 minutes to familiarise yourself.

If you have a wideband lambda then you can use autotune, it worked for me well enough for me and is part of MS

Regards Mark

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lotusmadandy

posted on 22/12/11 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Mark,i might just give it a go.
i didnt need megatherm as i bought the correct temp
sensors,just to keep it simple while setting up.
Trouble is i have to do it all again now

Andy






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big-vee-twin

posted on 22/12/11 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
You will not need magnatherm if you use tuner studio it can do it for you





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lotusmadandy

posted on 22/12/11 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the help lads

Andy






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BaileyPerformance

posted on 22/12/11 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lotusmadandy
Hi all,

I have inadvertantly deleted the base map on my ms1,just when i was starting
to get somewhere with the tuning.I accidentaly pressed
the wrong button and my engine abruptly stopped.
I have inputted some rough values from an ms2 12x12 table and got it running
again but this is far from ideal.
So,can anyone send me a map that i can load up please?
Dale at Bailey motorsport very kindly sent me a map but it has a 12x12 table
so is no good.

I am running a 2.0 blacktop zetec with ms1.
Any help will be greatly appreciated,as always.

Merry christmas to all the LCB'ers

Cheers,
Andy


Hi Andy,

Forgot what you have got now...MS1 with EDIS?

To be honest the "base map" plan is not the best idea anyway, no two setups are the same, you need to install a wideband and tune the engine from square one by running the engine at idle, tune VE, more throttle, then tune VE and so on. The ignition timing table is not that critical to get you going. If you get stuck i'll sort it for you if you can get the car to me?

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lotusmadandy

posted on 23/12/11 at 07:47 AM Reply With Quote
Hi Dale,

Yes i have ms1 with edis.I got sorted with a base map,I'm
going to load it up today and have another go.
Thank you for your offer of sorting out my map,i will need to try
and borrow a tow car and arrange a day sometime in the new year.
I will let you know how i get on.

Many thanks,

Andy






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BaileyPerformance

posted on 23/12/11 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lotusmadandy
Hi Dale,

Yes i have ms1 with edis.I got sorted with a base map,I'm
going to load it up today and have another go.
Thank you for your offer of sorting out my map,i will need to try
and borrow a tow car and arrange a day sometime in the new year.
I will let you know how i get on.

Many thanks,

Andy


Hi Andy,

I have a Range Rover and good car trailer so can pick the car up for you, give me your postcode and i'll give you a price for collection.

Hope you get it sorted, be careful not to run it too rich for too long (richer than 11AFR at low load will result in bore wash)

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