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craig_thomas

posted on 2/2/16 at 06:15 PM Reply With Quote
Lambda sensor location

Where's the best place to put a o2 sensor? Pics welcome.
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snapper

posted on 2/2/16 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
Behind the 4 into 1 collector further back the better for mixing
However many bolt it straight into the collector without issue.







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britishtrident

posted on 2/2/16 at 06:54 PM Reply With Quote
Oxygen sensors need lots of heat to work quickly after a cold start. --- for upstream sensors that means as close to the engine as possible at a point exposed equally to gas flow from all cylinders in the bank it monitors.





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obfripper

posted on 2/2/16 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
Try to make sure the sensor is between the 10 and 2 o clock positions (as close to vertical is ideal), otherwise when the engine is cold condensation can get into the heated ceramic part of the sensor and cause it to crack and fail.
Ensure the heater circuit is powered all the time the engine is running, this will help stop carbon fouling of the sensor and stop condensation forming inside the sensor thimble cover.
If you are going to use a wideband sensor, they are sensitive to extremes of heat and may need spacing away or a heatsink with turbo/supercharged/highly tuned engines to maintain accuracy and prevent heat damage, conversely on cruise the air cooling on the sensor can exceed the output of the heater circuit and cause cold sensor errors and no reading with faster sensor fouling - the sensor datasheet will give an ideal operating temp range.
If you are running a catalyst the sensor will need to be pre cat, a post cat sensor is only useful for checking the function of the cat, not for tuning applications.
Placing the sensor too far down the system can also run the risk of sensing o2 being drawn in by the exhaust pulses giving false lean readings.

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Mikef

posted on 3/2/16 at 09:09 AM Reply With Quote
As above, have mine after the last branch and before the cat.
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coyoteboy

posted on 3/2/16 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
Old-school sensors (4wire and less) want to be as close as possible to the ports in the fully combined flow. Wideband want to be carefully placed a bit further away (1-2m). If you'#re tuning from it you want to minimise the distance to minimise lag, it's all a trade-off.






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Oddified

posted on 3/2/16 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
As mentioned above, a wideband on a higher tuned engine (turbo/supercharger/nitrous) need to be a bit further down stream than at the collector or they cook. I went through quite a few until i moved it a further 3 foot along to just before the 1st silencer, been fine for a few years now

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coyoteboy

posted on 4/2/16 at 09:26 AM Reply With Quote
Yeah mine is about ~1m from the turbo and it craps out if I'm getting heavy right footed for extended periods.






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SteveWallace

posted on 4/2/16 at 09:43 AM Reply With Quote
If you need to go through IVA and its going to be outside of the engine bay, the other thing to consider is the radius requirements. If you can place it where the test sphere cannot touch it then it saves the bother of having to put some form of cover on the nut, which can be quite tricky as obviously rubber is no good for the temperatures it gets to.

Its a bit daft that they worry about the edges on a hex nut when the biggest risk from touching it is being burnt, but them's the rules!

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