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Author: Subject: bike engine stumbling at high RPM
tilly819

posted on 6/3/10 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote
bike engine stumbling at high RPM

hi all

have a wee problem,

when i open the throttle smootly and accelerce gently in 1st gear its all ok as far as i can tell
then when i change up to second and give it some its ok till about 6000 rpm then the engine starts to stumble/ splutter... this is the same throughout the gears.

engine is a 2002 honda super blackbird on EFI

now the only thing i can think it might be that is obvious to me is that i have removed the air box and just have ITG socks over the trumpets is this lightly to be part of the problem i though iniialy it might be turbulance from the bonnet scoop but i have blocked that off and the problem is still there..

any ideas??????

tilly





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twybrow

posted on 6/3/10 at 04:04 PM Reply With Quote
Running lean I would suspect. Removing the airbox will have changed the flow of air going in, so you sound like you need a Power Commander and some dyno time or a wideband lambda.
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tilly819

posted on 6/3/10 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
I was looking at power comanders a little while back

am i right in thinking that you install it alongside your excisting ECU then would compensate by adding more fuel when it gets the signal from the lambda to say it running lean or do you have to set it up yourself with a computer.....and a read out from the lambda?





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tilly819

posted on 6/3/10 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
ok just been doing abit of reading on power comanders aparently with the blackbird you need an o2 eliminator.......what is this for??

i have established i would need the power comander and a wide bacnd lambda with a read out so i can see when it is going lean so i would be able to adjust the map to add more fuel at this point...is that corect??

thanks

sorry for the stupid questions im not very experienced with tuning EFI

thanks tilly





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twybrow

posted on 6/3/10 at 05:14 PM Reply With Quote
Not sure on the specifics of the Blackbird I'm afraid. Hopefully one of the experts will be along soon!

You could probably do without the lambda sensor/gauge if you take it to a rolling road for setup.

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StevieB

posted on 6/3/10 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
I have a similar problem with my carb'd R1. I'm using a sausage filter and also have a TTS needle and jet kit.

It has a massive hesitation at 6,500 rpm.

I as thinking of just richening the fuel mix, but I think the best way would be a rolling road session to get it spot on.

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adithorp

posted on 6/3/10 at 11:09 PM Reply With Quote
How bad is it? Is it just a flat spot or does it really loose power?
If it's the first then it could be the mixture/map and a powercommander would be the answer (probably a good idea anyway). If it's the second then it sounds more like poor fuel delivery. What pump, etc, are you using?

adrian





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