theduck
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 04:09 PM |
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Originally posted by Sam_68
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Originally posted by sdh2903
For a 1k drivers car I'm surprised no one has suggested a clio 172?
Good call, but can you get one (that isn't a wreck) for £1K?
I was under the impression that anything other than a completely Barried shed of an example was still half as much again, or more?
My last one cost me £1100 and had a recent full cambelt service. Ok so it was on 130k miles but i put 40k on it in a year and it never missed a beat!
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smart51
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 04:16 PM |
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Originally posted by Sam_68To be fair, the MX5 was equally enjoyable - the lack of stiffness really used to wind me up, even after
I'd fitted all the aftermarket chassis bracing that money could buy.
And that would do my head in. I had a Suzuki Cappuccino a few years ago which was a joy on a country road. But take it on a track and the chassis
twisted up until it lifted a rear wheel. I made 4 chassis stiffening bars which transformed it. I'm happy to do the same to whatever I buy
next, so long as it is good when it is finished.
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Originally posted by Sam_68 Smart Roadster (another brilliant and much underated car, if you can learn to live with the horrible
gearchange)
I had a go in a Smart Roadster once. The dealer, having failed to service my ForTwo 4 hours after it was booked in, just wanted me out of the
showroom as my demeanour was putting off the punters. They're actually quite good fun and the roadster gearchange is both faster and smoother
than the ForTwo. Even the Brabus roadster is a bit too slow for what I'm looking for, though. I'd have bought one in preference to the
ForTwo if they were similar in price. My objection is that they were made of the same stuff. Same seats, same engine, more or less the same chassis
etc. They even weighed the same. But the roadster was twice the price. It just wasn't worth it. For a grand, though, I'd be quite
happy.
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Originally posted by sdh2903
For a 1k drivers car I'm surprised no one has suggested a clio 172? Wipes the floor with any of the cars mentioned. Parts are cheap. Loads of
mods out there if that's your thing. Just get one thats had the belt and dephaser done and jobs a good un.
Nice! I hadn't thought of that. The only ones under £1500 have done over 100,000 miles it seems. My shortlist is now MGF / TF, Mk3 MR2 and
2.0 Clio. I just can't get myself to like the MX5. Not sure why really.
[Edited on 17-1-2016 by smart51]
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ian locostzx9rc2
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 04:44 PM |
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Don't dismiss a mx5 if you haven't driven one best cheap soft top you can buy by far .
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jps
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 06:22 PM |
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1.7 Ford Puma? (I will declare an interest, there's one on my driveway that I would like to shift on to someone who will use it more than I
do)...
Certainly nippy although not mega quick and certainly available for less than 1k. Maybe not 'sports' enough though? And in its
'sector' probably trumped by the Clio mentioned above...
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SJ
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 07:03 PM |
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Out of that list the only one I'd be looking at would be the Clio. My preference isn't for soft tops though.
Stu
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loggyboy
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 07:12 PM |
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Glad someone other than me suggested clio as it does seem they are all i go on about - but for a good reason! Ive had 4. 2x 172s at £500 requiring
major engine work (but at time being worth 2k once repaired), 1x 182 at £1300 requiring similar. The other my current is high miler but was only £1k.
Runs like a dream and BHP is 'as new'.
Best hot hatch at budget levels by miles. If u plan for track it takes something special and more expensive to put you in your place. Plenty out there
for 1k price, just be sure cambelt is done or budget £500 for a specialist to do (don't use any old garage) or budget for £300 in parts and
tools and lots of swearing to do yourself.
[Edited on 17-1-16 by loggyboy]
Mistral Motorsport
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Daf
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 07:42 PM |
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The MGF is a funny one - I had one for years and loved it, it was well maintained and set up and really used to surprise people. However I bought a
second one as an MOT failure for spares and it was an utter dog, completely different cars - so I think a lot of the conflicting opinions might be
down to bad/good cars, the suspension geo is key on the MGF. With regards to the HGF as someone has previously said if it's put back together
properly it shouldn't go wrong, there's a lot of half arssed repairs out there on the k-series HGF and you just can't get away with
it on that engine. I have a hydragas pump too so if you do go down this road and you need to work on it give me a shout!
I gave the wife the MGF and she loved it, when we eventually changed it we went for an MX5 because all the press and what you read on the web points
to it being than the MGF - but what an utter let down! IMHO it's the most over rated car ever - it was such a dissapointment.
The clio is a cracking choice - my friend bought one two years ago for £850, other than the back box falling off and a broken suspension spring
nothing has gone wrong with it and it's brilliant fun!
Having driven them all, and lived with two of them I'd go for the MGF but would be really tempted with a Clio if the right one came up.
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Sam_68
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 08:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
I had a go in a Smart Roadster once... But the roadster was twice the price. It just wasn't worth it. For a grand, though, I'd be quite
happy.
I had a Brabus Roadster Coupe for a bit. In its defence, you could throw it around like you could never dream of with a ForTwo. And whilst it was
double the price of a ForTwo to buy, I actually made a couple of grand profit on selling it, so all good there.
But yes, they're well overpriced for their performance (particularly the Brabus models), and in any case you're not going to get one for
anything like your £1K budget so the idea would be academic.
Clio 172 certainly has legs if you can pick one up for the right price and you're not fixed on a 2-seat roadster - cracking little car to
drive!
I've quite fancied a Cappuccino myself, for road use. How did you stiffen yours up, and what was it like otherwise? Any issues to look out for
apart from rust?
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SCAR
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 08:42 PM |
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MGF is an lot of fun car for the money especially as cheap as this
 
Description
1.8vvc W reg
Recent discs, pads, oil and filters, MOT
£400 and drive it away
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smart51
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 09:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam_68I've quite fancied a Cappuccino myself, for road use. How did you stiffen yours up, and what was it
like otherwise? Any issues to look out for apart from rust?
I loved it. It was very reliable and surprisingly capable. 0-60 in 8.5s surprised many. Being very narrow meant you could take a wider line through
the corners and carry a bit more speed. In the dry there was plenty of grip too. On the track I seemed to catch people up through the twisty bits.
In the wet though, the rear would break away in a corner at even low speed, though only gently and easily held.
There was no hand room anywhere to work on it. I bought a special small socket set so I could get more than a quarter turn on the ratchet. They have
a reputation for rust and I say pictures of some horrors, but mine was absolutely 100% original with no rust other than the odd stone chip
underneath.
The mod that made the most difference to th handing was a bolt on brace across the bottom of the transmission tunnel where the subframe met the body.
The transmission tunnel was very deep. I think when you turned into a corner, one of the floor pans shifted forward and the other backwards as the
body flexed. Tying them together stopped them moving. Other than bracing the tunnel front and rear, a front 'strut't brace across the
engine bay and a brace behind the seats held the body together front and back.
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Sam_68
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 09:55 PM |
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Thanks.
That's an itch I might have to scratch, before they all disappear! 
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JC
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| posted on 17/1/16 at 10:28 PM |
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The answer is whichever is best for the money! One car might be better than another when new, but 20 years down the line you could compare 2
otherwise identical MX5s and find one fab, one awful! Look what is available at the price, drive it and if it's good, buy it!
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mjkh
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 05:42 AM |
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Are Fiat Barchettas out of your price range? It's a good handling car and IMO better looking than the MX5. Early models are better quality than
the later ones. Its a reliabe car and parts are reasonably priced.
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jelly head
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 07:59 AM |
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Originally posted by loggyboy
Plenty out there for 1k price, just be sure cambelt is done or budget £500 for a specialist to do (don't use any old garage) or budget for £300
in parts and tools and lots of swearing to do yourself.
[Edited on 17-1-16 by loggyboy]
Agreed - just doing the cambelt on my 172 at the moment (as well as sneaking some cams in ) and most of the car has to come apart, right ball ache. 
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nick205
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 08:52 AM |
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My mum has an MGTF for which she paid a massive £600. I've not driven it, but it's close to immaculate and open to modding as well.
Personally, I don't like them to look at, but on the value stakes they must be pretty high these days.
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swanny
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 09:33 AM |
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one day people will be amazed that you owned a british built sports car from a british owned company.
unless you buy an aston, these days its pretty tricky (kit cars aside)
i always liked MG/Rovers as they attracted a sub set of very mature owners who are often very good to their cars.
re sale on rovers is often poor so the previous owners£££££s they invested in servicing isnt shown in purchase price
ive never had any bother with mine. buy a good well loved one and scratch the itch.
Keep it british for as long as you can!
or buy a gtm libra/spyder. same mecahnicals, less weight, still got a roof and doors, heater and radio....
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Stevie_P
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 02:06 PM |
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I have an MR2 Roadster which would sell if you're interested?
It's over your budget as is but does have the hardtop and fitting kit which, if you sold, would bring the car into your sort of budget.
PM me if interested and I can send you some pictures and give some more details.
Steve
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swanny
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 03:29 PM |
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http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=0fab63679af430c9aa13029bcf6af8ff&t=233340
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britishtrident
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 03:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by swanny
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=0fab63679af430c9aa13029bcf6af8ff&t=233340
Looks a nice motor.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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ravingfool
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| posted on 18/1/16 at 05:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by swanny
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=0fab63679af430c9aa13029bcf6af8ff&t=233340
I pointed a colleague towards that recently but she ended up buying some Mercedes thing. Can't understand why, especially at that price!
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