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vinny1275

posted on 30/4/09 at 10:23 AM Reply With Quote
Ducati engined cars?

Morning all,

In a slack moment the other day, I was wondering why there don't seem to be any ducati powered cars about? Don't they appreciate being forced to power a car, or are they just much more expensive than the jap stuff?

Just wondering, as the noise of a duke is niiiiiiiiiiiiiice






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Omni

posted on 30/4/09 at 10:32 AM Reply With Quote
Someone is doing a F500 FIAT with a Ducati 999 engine in it. No pics yet though

www.F500.co.uk

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tegwin

posted on 30/4/09 at 10:36 AM Reply With Quote
I thought the Vtwin in a 999 was very highly strung and likley to throw a wobbly if you misstreated it... unlike the jap stuff that is slightly more forgiving?





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Richard Quinn

posted on 30/4/09 at 10:36 AM Reply With Quote
They're not that powerful (but do sound nice!). V twins into a 7 chassis can be a bit of a squeeze even with the 60 deg twin that I've got. A 90 deg twin like the Ducati or the TL would be a real challenge. Italian bike engines can be a smidge problematic for emissions too.
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clanger

posted on 30/4/09 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
Had a Ducati 748 once which decided to get rid of its tensioner pulley at 5000rpm...................................Kerrrchinnnngggg!!!!!!

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Hellfire

posted on 30/4/09 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
Duke clutches are not particularly reliable on the bike and will be under more stress in a BEC. They do sound great though

Phil






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idl1975

posted on 30/4/09 at 12:54 PM Reply With Quote
The mechanical advantage of having four cylinders instead of two means fours will be preferred for breadth of power band, especially given that there are no packaging advantages in a car, and in fact possibly disadvantages.

Similarly the purported traction benefits of a 90o firing order twin aren't really relevant. Plus, who wants to be bothered with belt replacement and desmo adjustment on the 8v engines when you can have a Japanese 4 with a timing chain. The old Duc motors also used to wee all their oil out when wheelied for too long, IIRC (or was it just they wouldn't oil one cylinder?), which might cause problems on track.

Best way to enjoy a Ducati motor is surely just to buy a post Head-Stud-Woe 900ss and shares in Maplins (<--- Italian bike humour), rather than torture it with a car chassis?

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Originally posted by vinny1275
Morning all,

In a slack moment the other day, I was wondering why there don't seem to be any ducati powered cars about? Don't they appreciate being forced to power a car, or are they just much more expensive than the jap stuff?

Just wondering, as the noise of a duke is niiiiiiiiiiiiiice

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vinny1275

posted on 30/4/09 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
Thought there might be a good reason like that! Curiosity done for now, thanks....

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Originally posted by idl1975
The mechanical advantage of having four cylinders instead of two means fours will be preferred for breadth of power band, especially given that there are no packaging advantages in a car, and in fact possibly disadvantages.

Similarly the purported traction benefits of a 90o firing order twin aren't really relevant. Plus, who wants to be bothered with belt replacement and desmo adjustment on the 8v engines when you can have a Japanese 4 with a timing chain. The old Duc motors also used to wee all their oil out when wheelied for too long, IIRC (or was it just they wouldn't oil one cylinder?), which might cause problems on track.

Best way to enjoy a Ducati motor is surely just to buy a post Head-Stud-Woe 900ss and shares in Maplins (<--- Italian bike humour), rather than torture it with a car chassis?









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dean100yz

posted on 30/4/09 at 02:05 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by idl1975
The mechanical advantage of having four cylinders instead of two means fours will be preferred for breadth of power band, especially given that there are no packaging advantages in a car, and in fact possibly disadvantages.

Similarly the purported traction benefits of a 90o firing order twin aren't really relevant. Plus, who wants to be bothered with belt replacement and desmo adjustment on the 8v engines when you can have a Japanese 4 with a timing chain. The old Duc motors also used to wee all their oil out when wheelied for too long, IIRC (or was it just they wouldn't oil one cylinder?), which might cause problems on track.

Best way to enjoy a Ducati motor is surely just to buy a post Head-Stud-Woe 900ss and shares in Maplins (<--- Italian bike humour), rather than torture it with a car chassis?

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Originally posted by vinny1275
Morning all,

In a slack moment the other day, I was wondering why there don't seem to be any ducati powered cars about? Don't they appreciate being forced to power a car, or are they just much more expensive than the jap stuff?

Just wondering, as the noise of a duke is niiiiiiiiiiiiiice



Id be thinking the same. I had a duc 748 and 2 RSV Mille's. Love Italian road bikes but keep those type of engines in a bike!

On a similar not I also had a Benelli Tornado Tre 900cc triple. The noise was pure sex but again not alot of BHP and not very reliable

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tegwin

posted on 30/4/09 at 02:08 PM Reply With Quote
The V twin might look nice pinned to the front of a trike though.. ala Morgan..





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