BenB
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 12:27 PM |
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Anyone think it's a bit ironic / Friday rant
The US Government recently voted against increased background checks on people wanting to buy guns.
They then wrote to Defence Distributed saying they weren't allowed to distribute an electronic design for a gun because it might result in guns
getting into the wrong hands.
WTF? So a Cad design for a gun is dangerous whereas allowing people to buy guns second hand without any background check is tickety boo.
Idiots.
TheOnion got this one spot on IMHO Onion
Article
[Edited on 10/5/13 by BenB]
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 01:03 PM |
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Yeah, it's a load of Bollocks. The nra needs crushing just like militant unions in the UK needed crushing.
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Litemoth
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 01:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
Yeah, it's a load of Bollocks. The nra needs crushing just like militant unions in the UK needed crushing.
What militant unions? what about advantage-taking employers and self-serving governments?
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Slimy38
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 01:24 PM |
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I don't fully understand it either. The 3d printers are a few thousand dollars, the gun requires a fairly high quality printer to get the
accuracy. The associated consumables aren't cheap and at the end of it you've got a big white brick that is difficult to conceal and only
fires one bullet at a time.
Or you can go into the nearest deli and order a club sandwich with a revolver on the side...
Being able to 'print' a gun in the UK is probably more of a concern, but I'm sure even here you wouldn't need to pay thousands
of pounds to buy a gun if you really wanted to. And even if you had a 3d printer to hand, you'd still need to source the bullets from
somewhere.
A printed gun is an interesting concept, but there are easier ways to get armed.
[Edited on 10/5/13 by Slimy38]
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twybrow
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 02:19 PM |
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I think the US government is less concerned that you can make a gun, and more worried that the gun is undetectable. They have laws in place about
manufacture of weapons that are not detectable, and this gun would fall into this category. Every part, apart from the firing pin, is plastic, and
hence undetectable...
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BenB
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 02:21 PM |
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Yes because those metal detectors in schools have really worked well at preventing mass shootings.....
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EX01
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 02:38 PM |
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Big white brick that fires one bullet today, tomorrow a death ray that atomises the planet. Ok a bit of a leap there but you get the idea? Won’t be
long before this evolves and any spotty teenage with a problem can print off and go shoot up his local school.
I would be more interested in a print out of a functional gentleman’s personal toy or how about printing out a new Lotus 7 Chassis? Broken wishbone?
Just a few minutes I’ll print another one off for you?
The beauty of a build is not the build or the drive when it’s done, it’s the sneaking the funds slowly past the wife as she remains blissfully
unaware!
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snapper
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 02:38 PM |
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quote:
The nra needs crushing just like militant unions in the UK needed crushing
And who are these militants that need crushing
When we have done this shall we start on human rights and free speech
Shall we replace fascist targets with Trade unionists and destroy them because we don't like the colour of their politics
And what RIGHTs do you hold dear or do you think your rights are ok but others are not
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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HappyFather
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 03:38 PM |
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Who needs a 3D printer when you have a Haynes style book?
The cover...
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 04:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Litemoth
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
Yeah, it's a load of Bollocks. The nra needs crushing just like militant unions in the UK needed crushing.
what about advantage-taking employers and self-serving governments?
isnt that called a REVOLUTION!!!? 
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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tilly819
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 04:45 PM |
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Where is my pop corn, this is shaping up to be a good one!!
Tilly
F20C Haynes roadster 440 BHP/Tonne www.youtube.com/handmadeextreme
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Simon
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 05:16 PM |
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Why bother with a gun, when you can do a (sort of) proper wmd:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn
Just in case you get any ideas - this is his face:
Building a single shot gun is easy, it's the ammo that's difficult. Crossbow might be easier, spesh if you've got an old leaf spring
lying around!
ATB
Simon
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morcus
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| posted on 10/5/13 at 10:59 PM |
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The real problem comes when the 3d Printer starts printing out more 3d printers...
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 11/5/13 at 08:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
The real problem comes when the 3d Printer starts printing out more 3d printers...
That already happens. If you look at the diy printers, they are able to recreate their own parts for everything except the electronics...
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 11/5/13 at 08:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by EX01
Big white brick that fires one bullet today, tomorrow a death ray that atomises the planet. Ok a bit of a leap there but you get the idea? Won’t be
long before this evolves and any spotty teenage with a problem can print off and go shoot up his local school.
I would be more interested in a print out of a functional gentleman’s personal toy or how about printing out a new Lotus 7 Chassis? Broken wishbone?
Just a few minutes I’ll print another one off for you?
Iirc they exist, Jay Leno has one (or has had extensive use of one) in restoring the older cars in his collection. Also iirc you don't even need
an intact original part to scan
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 09:33 AM |
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Here's a review of the 'Liberator' printed gun - without all of the hype!
The plastic gun
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Strontium Dog
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 10:53 AM |
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Quote:
When we have done this shall we start on human rights and free speech
What do you mean "start"? We're already well on our way with this one!
[Edited on 12/5/13 by Strontium Dog]
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x319/zephyr2000/General%20forum%20uploads/?action=view¤t=3DEngine.mp4
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JoelP
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 11:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Litemoth
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
Yeah, it's a load of Bollocks. The nra needs crushing just like militant unions in the UK needed crushing.
What militant unions? what about advantage-taking employers and self-serving governments?
You missed the needED crushing, making it a reference to overreaching unions of old. Unions are essential to balance workers rights against big
employers. When they are taking the demands of a subset of the population and undermining a democratically elected government, then they have gone too
far. The analogy to the NRA comes from the fact that as a lobby group, the NRA has far more influence than it should, when its demands are balanced
against polls of general public opinion.
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JoelP
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 11:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
quote:
The nra needs crushing just like militant unions in the UK needed crushing
And who are these militants that need crushing
When we have done this shall we start on human rights and free speech
Shall we replace fascist targets with Trade unionists and destroy them because we don't like the colour of their politics
And what RIGHTs do you hold dear or do you think your rights are ok but others are not
Lets have that in English if you want a reply.
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Peteff
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 03:05 PM |
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I think we should leave American politics to Americans and as for crushing the Unions look where that's got us, industry free. UK is now
dependant on the banking sector and we keep having to bail them out from taxes while they continue to pat each other on the back and pay themselves
big bonuses. Without the Unions you would still be working for tokens you can only spend in the truck shop and you would "owe your soul to the
company store"
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 04:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
I think we should leave American politics to Americans and as for crushing the Unions look where that's got us, industry free.
Whereas the militant unions got us what? A nation on strike most of the time.
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Peteff
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 05:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJWhereas the militant unions got us what? A nation on strike most of the time.
Holidays, 40 hour or less working week, paid overtime plus a lot of other benefits we all take for granted now. What did your dad do for a living ?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 06:37 PM |
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40 hour week makes me laugh!!
NONE of my close friends work less than 50 hours.
I think I've had a relaxing week if I do less than 70 hours
Less than 40 and I'd have gone bust!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 09:22 PM |
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Getting back to the point of the original post...
...the knee-jerk reactions have started, no matter how moronic it seems!
Proposed 3D printer ban?
One prat publishes a rubbish design for a barely-functioning pistol, and this senator wants to ban something used by geeks and kids' maker clubs
all around the world.
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Litemoth
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| posted on 12/5/13 at 09:59 PM |
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Citizen Smith...Power to the people!
...without guns obviously.
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