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scoop

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:15 AM Reply With Quote
Changing rear Sierra Diffs question

Hi,
I'm changing from the 3.4 with the push in drive shafts to a 3.9 with bolt on 'shafts.
Am I right in thinking that I can just change the cv joints?
If so can anyone recommend a supplier please?

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loggyboy

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:31 AM Reply With Quote
Outer hubs/carriers will need changing unless you 'hybridise' the shafts.





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kingster996

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:32 AM Reply With Quote
Useful info here http://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic/101143-lsd-diff/






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scoop

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:38 AM Reply With Quote
Is the 3.9 LSD then?
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CosKev3

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:41 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Is the 3.9 LSD then?


pretty sure it will be, think there are some odd ball non lsd sierra diffs but 99% are lsd.

doesn't the seller know?

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kingster996

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:42 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Is the 3.9 LSD then?
Not always - but LSD's will have bolt on Lobros...






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kingster996

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:43 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Is the 3.9 LSD then?


pretty sure it will be, think there are some odd ball non lsd sierra diffs but 99% are lsd.

Other way round I'd say Kev - LSD only fitted to XR4x4 and some Cossies I think - but loads of non-lsd Sierras out there






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scoop

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:45 AM Reply With Quote
I didn't think this was. How can you tell?
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kingster996

posted on 21/8/15 at 10:00 AM Reply With Quote
Usual method is to turn the output shaft on one side - if the other one goes the opposite way, it's an open diff.

There's also some numbers on the diff that can ID it - see here for info http://www.super7thheaven.co.uk/components/sierra_rear_differential/






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scoop

posted on 21/8/15 at 11:12 AM Reply With Quote
Ok will have a look and give it a go.
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scoop

posted on 21/8/15 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
Shame it's not as easy as I thought
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CosKev3

posted on 21/8/15 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kingster996
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Is the 3.9 LSD then?


pretty sure it will be, think there are some odd ball non lsd sierra diffs but 99% are lsd.

Other way round I'd say Kev - LSD only fitted to XR4x4 and some Cossies I think - but loads of non-lsd Sierras out there


With bolt on shafts????

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CosKev3

posted on 21/8/15 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Shame it's not as easy as I thought


You won't get much easier a test then turning the output shafts!!!!

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scoop

posted on 21/8/15 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
Lol. No I meant the swap

[Edited on 21/8/15 by scoop]

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CosKev3

posted on 21/8/15 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Lol. No I meant the swap

[Edited on 21/8/15 by scoop]


Oh!

That should be pretty easy too,what are you stuck with?

Or is it the shafts your on about?

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kingster996

posted on 21/8/15 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by kingster996
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Is the 3.9 LSD then?


pretty sure it will be, think there are some odd ball non lsd sierra diffs but 99% are lsd.

Other way round I'd say Kev - LSD only fitted to XR4x4 and some Cossies I think - but loads of non-lsd Sierras out there


With bolt on shafts????

Ah you didn't say that, but still plenty of open diffs with bolt on shafts, just look on evilbay






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scoop

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Lol. No I meant the swap

[Edited on 21/8/15 by scoop]


Oh!

That should be pretty easy too,what are you stuck with?

Or is it the shafts your on about?


Yes it's making my current shafts fit the new 3.92 diff. I was sure I had read in the past that you just changed the cv joints and hey presto.

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CosKev3

posted on 21/8/15 at 09:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kingster996
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by kingster996
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Is the 3.9 LSD then?


pretty sure it will be, think there are some odd ball non lsd sierra diffs but 99% are lsd.

Other way round I'd say Kev - LSD only fitted to XR4x4 and some Cossies I think - but loads of non-lsd Sierras out there


With bolt on shafts????

Ah you didn't say that, but still plenty of open diffs with bolt on shafts, just look on evilbay


No I didn't,but the OP said in first post the 3.9 is bolt on shafts

quote:
Originally posted by scoop
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by scoop
Lol. No I meant the swap

[Edited on 21/8/15 by scoop]


Oh!

That should be pretty easy too,what are you stuck with?

Or is it the shafts your on about?


Yes it's making my current shafts fit the new 3.92 diff. I was sure I had read in the past that you just changed the cv joints and hey presto.


If you have the correct amount of splines on your push in drive shafts it is that easy,the lobro just goes straight onto your drive shaft.

If you search on here you will find info on doing it,iirc the shafts need to have 23 splines to take a lobro.

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scoop

posted on 22/8/15 at 06:39 AM Reply With Quote
Can you tell me what iirc and lobro means?
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SJ

posted on 22/8/15 at 07:05 AM Reply With Quote
Iirc = if I recall correctly

Lobro is a just a different type of joint to the older tripide joint.

Stu

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scoop

posted on 22/8/15 at 07:11 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks SJ.
So it may be a case of just swapping cv joints if once I have the current ones off I have 23 splines?

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kingster996

posted on 22/8/15 at 07:55 AM Reply With Quote
Depends what you mean by cv joints?

You can swap the individual cv joints on each individual driveshaft so one end is tripode (push in) and the other is lobro (bolt on). That is a hybrid shaft as per the link I posted.

If you mean swapping the whole driveshaft from one to the other, then as far as I know, this can't be done without also changing the bearing carrier to suit the shaft.

Happy to be corrected though.






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kingster996

posted on 22/8/15 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
No I didn't,but the OP said in first post the 3.9 is bolt on shafts

Now your bringing facts into the equation, that's not fair






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scoop

posted on 22/8/15 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
Mine would be hybrid then
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scoop

posted on 24/8/15 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
It's an open diff
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