Avoneer
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| posted on 22/11/05 at 11:43 PM |
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Ali sides to Ali floor join
How have people fitted there sides and floor where they both meet on the bottom of the outside chassis rails?
Do I rivet the floor first and then bash the side panel over the rivet heads.
Or do I rivet and drill though the floor and side panel once it is fitted and bent round the bottom edge?
Thanks,
Pat...
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Peteff
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 12:17 AM |
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If I was fitting an aluminium floor I would fit the floor first rivetting the inner sections then fit the outer panels and rivet through both at once
using adhesive for the floor then for the side panels. Get some clecos so you can deburr the holes between the panels.
yours, Pete
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ned
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 08:25 AM |
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i think nsdev had a thread on this very subject a little while back...
Ned 
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MikeR
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 09:09 AM |
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yep, he sure did, in the end he just bashed the ali over th floor with some silkaflex between the chassis and floor and floor and side.
(i think - i wait to be corrected)
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NS Dev
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 09:55 AM |
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Yep, and Yep!
I did indeed ask the same question exactly a while ago, I was frettign over it too! (mainly as I had already rivetted the floor!)
As Mike said, I just bashed the return edge of the sides over the river heads in the floor, which then clearly showed where they were, and I then
drilled and rivetted through floor and side in between each of the existing rivets holding the floor.
Thought it would not be a very nice way to do it but it looks fine and I was worrying about nothing as usual!
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Jonr
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 12:04 PM |
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Did you use more rivets than you needed too or did you deliberatley use as few as possible on the floor and then the right amount through the floor
and side panels?
Just thinking about making less holes in the chassis.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 12:15 PM |
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I wasn't that organised to be honest!!!
I wouldn't worry about the holes though, the rivets add more stiffness benefit than the holes cost in strength.
I used a 35-40mm spacing for the floor rivets and similar for the sides, so along the side rails the final spacing was approx 20mm.
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dnmalc
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 12:49 PM |
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if you want to minimise the no of rivets there was a thread here recently about using 3M VBHadhesive tape and a few rivits at each corner
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steve m
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 07:59 PM |
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I used "no nails" and bent the alui sides over the floor (chassis was upsid down!!)
and the riveted the alui through the floor and into the 1" box section
it appears to have worked ok
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Avoneer
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 08:49 PM |
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Did you not rivet the floor first?
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steve m
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 10:09 PM |
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the floor was welded to the chassis rails first as per the book, the alui wasthe put over the top
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Avoneer
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 10:23 PM |
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Aaahhh, that would be easy.
My problem is I'm using an Ali floor, so that has ti be riveted on as well.
Decided to rivet the floor all round and bash the side return flange over the rivets and rivet in between as per NS Dev.
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Deckman001
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 10:30 PM |
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Could you use countersunk rivets for the floor to get a flat surface to fold the sides on to ?????
Jason
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Avoneer
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 10:42 PM |
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Yeah, but just drilled all the 4.8mm holes!
Don't think it will be a problem, as I'd rather have the whole floor held on with large flange rivets, but I might see if you can buy
4.8mm countersunk rivets.
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steve m
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 10:47 AM |
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but why not have the side panel, and floor riveted thru to 1" tube??
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Avoneer
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 11:04 AM |
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Because the only panel I am riveting on is the floor.
All other panels will be sikalfexed.
Just makes sense using conutersunk rivets on the edges now.
Cheers,
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smart51
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 11:50 AM |
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Could you not use one huge sheet of ali and bend it up so that the floor and sides are made from 1 piece? Just a thought.
I would glue the floor on with rivets in the centre and clamps on the edges then I would rivet through the side and floor together.
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Avoneer
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 01:25 PM |
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The floor is made from 2mm ali and the sides 1mm so keeping them separate.
Also, only want the side panels sikad on.
Going to countersink the floor rivets that are on the outide edge.
This will all look very neat when done.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 28/11/05 at 09:57 AM |
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that would have been the "right" way to do it in my case!
As it was, the non-countersunk rivets were a godsend because once the return edge of the side panel is covered in gooey sikaflex, you can't see
where the floor rivets are!
Bashing the return edge over them yielded nice clues as to their whereabouts!
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